Please don't lie in champion ability details

The Ecdysiast·Feb 22, 2016·3 votes·296 views

I don't know any other examples, but it really irks me that Sion's ultimate and passive imply he gains movement and attack speed past what he has.

Instead of what the abilities say, they both set you at concrete speeds that cannot be changed.

Both set the speeds at concrete numbers that override any buffs being provided and any items purchased, even when it becomes the case that the items alone would be faster.

It's not cool that he can go from having bought 2.5 AS to being set down to 1.75, or move slower when he presses R than he would just using Homeguard, but the abilities are worded to the contrary.

EDIT: I also think his ultimate needs to be buffed to remove this cap, so that he doesn't get jipped when he buys boots.

11 Comments

Dominick DestineFeb 22, 20161 votes

That's a good point.

But Sion is complete garbage right now so who cares...

PhantomGGFeb 22, 20161 votes

I would say Sion still has his uses, if he lands a solid 2 man ultimate or higher it can be really game changing for he can immedaitly follow up with a second stun and then a slow, this is a massive ammount of cc you are just getting from the sion, chances are your team also has some cc and can chain it with your CC. Honestly I feel like Sion is simply the harder version of nautlist to play.

Dominick DestineFeb 22, 20161 votes

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if he lands a solid 2 man ultimate

Sion will not land his ultimate on two people. I am assuming by "Solid" you mean having it stun for an effective duration rather than doing it at melee range for a flimsy mini-stun... remember that Sion moves very slowly and announces his ult to the enemy team.... it's a terrible ultimate.

In my opinion, the second worst ultimate in the game, after Radiance.

The EcdysiastFeb 22, 20161 votes

Hey, hey. It's the third worst ultimate.

The first is conditionally Kalista's. I don't think anything's worse than having no ultimate at all.

Dominick DestineFeb 22, 20162 votes

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The first is conditionally Kalista's. I don't think anything's worse than having no ultimate at all.

That's nonsense.

Kallista's ultimate is extremely practical. Arguably one of the most versatile and useful ultimates in the game... if you place the condition against it, then by the same argument "What if you miss X ultimate, it does zero damage!" would be the equally absurd counter-part.

5000000000000000Feb 22, 20161 votes

I think his point is that you can't use it when your soulbound is not around. Still a bad point, though.

Dominick DestineFeb 22, 20161 votes

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I think his point is that you can't use it when your soulbound is not around.

Obviously, but to reiterate my incredibly obvious retort that any and all intelligent men should easily grasp; Arguing that her ultimate is bad in any way even slightly, because it is reliant on a second player is like arguing that X ult is bad because if it misses it does zero damage.

Still a bad point, though.

Then your previous statement was null.

The EcdysiastFeb 22, 20161 votes

No, your point doesn't stand at all.

Every ultimate is bad if you assume the condition that it requires you use it for successful combat with the enemy isn't met. You'r trying to say that any and all damaging ultimate abilities "require another player' in the same was as Kallista's, which isn't true in the slightest.

What I'm saying is an ultimate that cannot be activated when the champion is alone is bad.

Kalista's ultimate can be missed as well, but by no fault of the caster. An ability that an ally can miss for you is also bad.

Kalista's ultimate can be removed from the game due to a player besides herself disconnecting.

If you need more explanation as to how missing an ability is different from being unable to activate it, I don't know what other help I can give you. It's clear enough as is. Hitting the enemy is not a condition to activate an ability.

Dominick DestineFeb 22, 20161 votes

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No, your point doesn't stand at all.

You say this and then follow up with;

Every ultimate is bad if you assume the condition that it requires you use it for successful combat with the enemy isn't met.

Which is exactly what I have been saying from the beginning with regards to that subject, thus contradicting yourself literally within the next sentence.

[zombie-brand-clap]

Well done.

The EcdysiastFeb 22, 20161 votes

You're pretending my explanation of your point is in agreement with you? Hmm. Please, just stop while you're behind.

The EcdysiastFeb 22, 20161 votes

No, your point doesn't stand at all.

What I'm saying is an ultimate that cannot be activated when the champion is alone is bad.

Kalista's ultimate can be missed as well, but by no fault of the caster. An ability that an ally can miss for you is also bad.

If you need more explanation as to how missing an ability is different from being unable to activate it, I don't know what other help I can give you. It's clear enough as is.

Nevermind the fact that you just don't know how to use Taric's ultimate.