Why is our beloved Elise still banned so much?

CatSith··2 votes·911 views

:< i just want to play her top.

Elise

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bad manner kid4 votes

Anytime Elise is strong enough to insta kill someone at 50% hp early game she goes back to perma ban mode.

The point and click executes/spider bomb on top of a stun skillshot make her extremely potent.

CatSith1 votes

Exactly what a real spider does, hunt and kill.

EndlessSorcerer3 votes

People don't read patch notes.

Sassmast3r1 votes

You play Elise top!? That's amazing omg.

Anyways, are you talking about before the nerf to her Q, or after?

Before, her Q did an insane amount of damage; 8% of a target's health!!! It was ridiculous, and the one thing that's supposed to be relatively difficult for her (Which would be snowballing) was made easy, thus making her pick/ban. You would not believe how threatening a snowballing Elise is O.O.

After they nerfed her Q? I'm honestly not sure. It was a REALLY hard nerf; now her Q only does 4% current health damage, instead of 8, so if you're telling me that in draft pick/ranked that they still ban her, shit I honestly don't know. If that Q nerf wasn't enough to make her fair to fight against then I fear for the worst; more nerfs for her in the future, and she'll once again become worthless in the jungle.

Tourian1 votes

Even pre-nerf her Q has been the same for quite some time, before she was strong in fact its been nerfed twice before. Shitters just dont realize they need to build MR against her and it severely cripples her.

For whatever reason people just cant stand to let elise be remotely strong without bitching, probably because they've never played her to learn her weaknesses.

Sassmast3r1 votes

You know, honestly I have to agree. I always wonder why people tend to complain about her, out of all the junglers being OP. There's Diana. She's so annoying to go against when she snowballs, and believe me, she can snowball pretty easily. There's Shyvana. With Devourer, I'm pretty sure that it's a known fact; you cannot beat her. No shit. There's Udyr. Once again, with Devourer, you cannot stop him. You have to ignore him, and push midlane, but a lot of people don't think about doing this. There's Master Yi. So many people struggle with him, and I mean yes, I see complaints every once in a while. But not anywhere near as often as I see nerf Elise threads. I simply don't understand it.

Tourian1 votes

Couldn't have said it better. There were much larger problems than elise before this patch, namely the ones you mentioned, and look who gets shit on right before worlds.

FacerollKatarina2 votes

Elise's damage is a lot better early but falls off late game, Diana can hardly do anything before level 6

YCitizenSnipsY1 votes

Not enough time for the new patch to sink in yet. Her winrate is already down to 50% but its gonna take some time before people flock to a new priority ban in the jungle. It seems Ranked players are still banning what the see in the lcs as opposed to whats seeing success in solo q. Shyv is already starting to see a higher ban rate than elsie this patch,on champion.gg. Give it time for that to trickle down, as soon as high elo players stop banning her everyone else will follow.

SaltyKracka1 votes

People aren't so quick to forget cancer.

CatSith1 votes

There are others champions who are more cancerous than Elise.

SaltyKracka1 votes

Which a priori means you are admitting Elise is/was cancer.

The point I will grant. At the moment.

CatSith2 votes

There are different stages of cancer my friend.

SaltyKracka1 votes

She was in remission. Then Rito metastasized her some buffs. At which point she started spreading her broken ass through the body politic again.

Then there's the recent nerf, so it appears a combination of chemo and treatment (i.e. bans) have been keeping her from metastasizing any further.

CatSith1 votes

Someones salty. If all you can say is broken or cancerous without any legit bases.

See ya. O/

SaltyKracka1 votes

In case you can't tell, I'm stretching the metaphor.

And all cancers aside, playing against Elise just isn't all that fun.

The Whamboozler1 votes

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In case you can't tell, I'm stretching the metaphor.

And all cancers aside, playing against Elise just isn't all that fun.

A ton of people don't find playing against Riven fun. She's also got an insanely high pick rate. I don't see why that makes a difference at all.

SaltyKracka1 votes

Do people ban Riven in your games y/n?

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