So....why exactly are you nerfing MR?

HateDaddy·Nov 20, 2014·1 votes·439 views

It was already trash as it was, please tell me theres something more to this concerning stat changes or something. If not, you legit just shit on MR for no reason.

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Meep ManNov 20, 20141 votes

Can we actually play the patch before we complain what is in it?

HateDaddyNov 20, 20142 votes

Can we actually play the patch before we complain what is in it?

Sure, but I don't understand the logic behind removing negatron cloak and making mr weaker just to make it a few hundred gold cheaper. Getting a few hundred gold is easy, even if the finished components offer the same MR, theearly game loss in that extra MR is a big time kick in the dick no matter how you look at it. I just don't understand why riot continues to shit on defensive itemzation.

Killer X 12Nov 20, 20141 votes

The nerfs were for a few items and were very small, and they added in new MR on banner of command and buffed the abyssal.

They could of afforded to nerf them more since MR > Mag Pen.

HateDaddyNov 20, 20141 votes

The nerfs were for a few items and were very small, and they added in new MR on banner of command and buffed the abyssal.

They could of afforded to nerf them more since MR > Mag Pen.

Im an ad, i won't build banner of command or abyssal. And 15 mr reduction isn't small, especially early to mid game - thats enormous.

And void staff shits on all MR because if you do nothing but stack MR, you get gibbed by range adcs. So you can only build so much MR.

Killer X 12Nov 20, 20141 votes

Why are you building a QSS early game as an AD (very few times i'd bother with that item, Malz is prolly the only one)? Also the nerf to the cowl was just to the cowl, the notes don't mention the MR on the Visage or the Veil being reduced. People who build tank only have the small decrease to their early to mid game MR on the cowl item.

Also ADCs who build the QSS build it for the active, they don't need ranged ADCs to be doing as much damage as they do now and also be able to survive the mid laners burst.

Sailor MintNov 20, 20141 votes

It's a intended to be a buff to MR, if you're finding yourself unable to stay in lane, it's easier to get Mantles (500g) then turn them into what you want than it is to save up 720g for a Negatron.

HateDaddyNov 20, 20141 votes

It's a intended to be a buff to MR, if you're finding yourself unable to stay in lane, it's easier to get Mantles (400g) then turn them into what you want than it is to save up 720g for a Negatron.

They increased mantle to 500g

The difference is 220g, thats not hard to acquire. Even in a difficult early lane for the first few levels.

RainbowgasmNov 20, 20141 votes

the items are also cheaper which means you can get some meaningful MR earlier on, hopefully before the guy who is blowing everyone up snowballs too hard.

HateDaddyNov 20, 20141 votes

the items are also cheaper which means you can get some meaningful MR earlier on, hopefully before the guy who is blowing everyone up snowballs too hard.

Right but look at it this way

Null magic mantle now offers 25 mr, up from 20 and cost increase is 100g - 100g increase for 5 mr, fair enough. However, negatron gave you 40mr for only 220 gold more, which is a big difference, especially early. Farming out that 220g doesn't take much and very rarely will you be getting denied that hard (this is mostly top lane where negatron rushes aren't uncommon) where you can't farm out that difference or just stick around a little extra longer to accumulate it.

So whats pretty common is if you are in a tough lane, you are going to back to get that negatron ASAP so you can withstand their onslaught and poke/all-in. Generally you won't be able to freely farm out a cowl, do the 720g was perfect. 40 mr, and you are good until you need cowl or even cowl + health crystal. By then they sre getting either sorcs or guise depending on the laner, or catalyst etc. So you end up basically getting screwed out of 15mr here. Sure cowl is cheaper and offers the same stats iirc but if the logic is you can barely farm 500 gold out, how are you supposed to double that? You aren't going to go mantle, get cowl gold and B immediately. You didn't do that with negatron because it gave you enough mr to sit on for a little bit, with mantle you will most likely have to b as soon as you get the gold for cowl, which distinctly puts you at a disadvantage now compared to how negatron gave you the ability to lane, I honestly believe the loss of 15 mr will be thay significant early on and into mid game.

It sounds like a buff on paper and for mages it probably is in mid lane but for top lane, I am telling you this will be a straight early/mid game nerf.