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I believe That nashoor Tooth needs a rework!

Giggling Granny··2 votes·335 views

This item item 3115 right now is only good for 2-3 champions like

Good for them Kayle Diana Teemo Maybe use it Jax XinZhao Kennen Troll-weird user Aatrox Udyr Tryndamere

So This item is only good for 3 out of 135 champions...That just wrong...and i dont know how many mages this game have because what is mage nowdays..is lulu a mage? is karma a mage or a support? anyway out of lets say 50 mages only 3 of them have good use of it

For me this item sound good but its not because if you arent kayle you cant afford playing with item 3101 as item because it provide you nothing in terms of raw power

For me this item need to be reworked but still fullfil the on hit damage but in something better my suggestion is

item 3136 +item 3108 +700G

New icon =Some weird necklase a combination of tooth (Like the rengar ones) that have a mask with bleeding eyes crafted on

Stats 80AP 300Hp 20%CDR Unique Passive:Eye of pain 20 magic penetration Unique Passive:Every Auto attack or Spell burn the enemy for 15 +0.2AP +1%+ 0.1AP of their max hp. Any energize or empower Auto attack doubles the damage (2.5 second CD So it cant be abused the double damage by spellblade users or champions with more than one energize attacks)

So with this Passive you still be able to use this item on kayle for his E or diana for his passive or jax for his W or any champion who use Lichbane and empower their AA but now its good on a bigger pool of mages!

Numbers can be adjust to stronger or weaker but this is just a concept

18 Comments

deoje2992 votes

Good idea for a new item, but nashors tooth needs the attack speed to be good at its purpose.

Giggling Granny1 votes

what exactly is the purpose of this item? to be used only from kayle?

MysterQ1 votes

You are right not many people use it.

But what other AS items are there. AS and On Hit in general just have nothing. Nashor, Guinsoo, .... Bork...... Wit's End Oh yea, Bloodrazor smite specific. Otherwise, the only way you are getting AS is a CRIT item or Trinity.

If you took Nashor out completely, Kayle would not be the hypercarry she is. Granted maybe that is fine move her in a different role. But there is no other way for champs who want to be AAmages or on hit have anything.

Giggling Granny1 votes

Kayle would have item 3153 item 3085 item 3124 item 3100 item 3115

The new item would give her more RAW power but less AS

And like i say yeah maybe kayle wouldnt be the primary user any more but from 3 champions that use that item now 10-20 can use that item or even more...that its a good trade and there are not many AA mage champions (if we talk about normal build if we talk about off meta normal game build yeah you can build orianna with nashoor tooth but its a good build? maybe its better than the standard one? no)

So yeah there would be a trade off for kayle but it would be better for many other champions

MysterQ2 votes

At the same time,

Why not have both items.

I do agree Nashor is not used by enough champions though. But why remove it just ti replace it with something else, there isn't a limit to the item shop.

Giggling Granny1 votes

Malady-Ionic Spark-Madred's Bloodrazor-Oponn's Razor-Sword of the Divine-Twin Shadows-Zephyr

Some times when items arent used they get an upgrade or they get removed!

The new nashoor tooth would still fullfil the Auto attack damage but it would be a better item overall for a bigger pool and not only for 2 champions out of the 135...this is just wrong

chipndip11 votes

We need a decent amount of AA mages to cater to before we have to care about AA mages...

deoje2994 votes

or teemo or azir, any time you need to scale with ap empowered attack speed.

Giggling Granny1 votes

teemo is already on the list and teemo already is more of a weird tank AP what ever build the pro does with him...i dont know i dont really follow!

But i am pretty sure teemo E is an empower attack so the nashoor tooth would give him better damage overall from the old one dont you think? teemo with his E and lich bane would be stronger and tankier (because of the HP)

And Azir is already on the list of rework that why i didnt use him because a 43% win ratio champion is obvious that its not the item that would save him

Lauchmelder1 votes

It's pretty safe to say that some item buffs would bring him out of the gutter.

The problem with him is not reaching his #EndGameFantasy any more because games end too fast, if an item he builds (like Nashor's) gets buffed he will get a significant increase in winrate.

Azir per say isn't a bad champion right now, he's still a lategame monster who can delete your squishies with a few auto attacks, his problem lies in not reliably getting there in the first place.

Giggling Granny1 votes

but now NT is more early stronger damage item and still offers the on hit damage! i dont know why people are obsesed with AS when its mostly useless on mages and even teemo the good ones never build NT the main teemo ones build str8 RAW AP items or Tank teemo

deoje2991 votes

But the attack speed......

Giggling Granny1 votes

with the new 20 magic penetration you can use red for AS (15%) Rather than magic penetration so now you are even on AS but a lot stronger....

deoje2991 votes

15% AS vs 50%.....

Darkdemon6531 votes

NT (and all the other non-Zeal, non-BotRK AS items) going unused is a problem with champion design, not the items' designs.

FatedSaviour1 votes

TwistedFate

GankedByWindows1 votes

What is wrong with it being a niche item? A decent amount of champions can/do use it. its not like there is a limit on how many items there are in the game.

Kayle, Azir, Teemo, Diana, Jax, AP Xin, TF.

SithesisLord1 votes

So basically you turn an item that already has a defined niche and respects it by only being viable on a few champions into an item every mage under the sun can buy?

Yeah, no, Nashor's is good in its current state.

All it needs is a new icon. Both it and Stinger.

Sometimes, items aren´t made to be used by a larger amount of champions.

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