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The community causes more balance problems than Riot

ApplyForAGrant·3/8/2015, 9:25:45 PM·7 votes·642 views

People whine about Elise and Zac being weak today, and forget that their endless whining directly caused these champions to be nerfed to the ground.

It's so fucking ironic people are using their low win rates to justify them needing buffs, because before each of their latest nerfs, Elise and Zac were at 45% and 47% win rate respectively. But what did the community say? "WIN RATES DON'T MATTER RIOT! NERF!"

So Riot nerfed them. A few month later they have 1% pick rate and 42% win rate. Now people turn around and goes "WTF Riot! Why are they so weak? Why are they so weak compared to XXX? Why don't you listen to us?"

And guess what? What does the top 3 champions whined about today, Lee, LeBlanc, and Zed, have in common? That's right, they all have 46% win rate.

You ever wonder why Riot doesn't nerf these champions? It's not because LC$BigPlays, it's because they have learned that the through Elise and Zac that community doesn't know SHIT when it comes to balance.

6 Comments

Malix Farwin3/8/2015, 9:26:55 PM4 votes

And that is painfully obvious with the veigar and kassadin changes... oh wait...

DJ Di03/8/2015, 9:35:48 PM4 votes

There's nerfing, and then there's absolute gutting like Riot's been doing lately. And no, winrate isn't concrete information about a champion's exact strength, but it is something that has to be taken into consideration.

Elise, Syndra, Veigar, Kassadin all took a big-ass nose dive in winrate when they got nerfs, or as Riot called some of them "DFG-Compensation". Syndra is barely starting to even out after, what, three patches?

Also, Leblanc and Zed /do/ need nerfs right now; Leblanc is one of the strongest mages and Zed is still splitpushing like crazy even with his love-tap nerfs.

Nucleophilic atk3/8/2015, 11:50:10 PM2 votes

Maybe because there is a difference in nerfing a slightly strong champ, and nerfing them to the point where you are considered trolling for picking them. If you don't understand that OP, then I'm not sure you should be allowed on the internet. Next you will be trying to say that vaccines cause autism.

Hirok03/8/2015, 11:46:29 PM1 votes

Your attitude in discussion, in insulting riot and the community rather than just staying on point, makes me not care what you think. I did read though, and I mostly disagree with your assumption of how things actually happen.