Yes, that's right, she's almost picked in every 2/5 games in Diamond
Is anything going to be done about this?
Lol at all these salty Vayne mains defending her. If a melee champion had statistics that stupid they'd be nerfed within 2 hours
Heckin Support25 votesA champion that shines and is good against the main meta is bad? Why should someone whose good at killing tanks be punished for shining in the tank meta?
Anonagon4 votesBecause there's actually no reason she should be stronger in a tank meta
Point to her %maxHP true damage all you want, but Vayne's weakness is lockdown by CC chains, since she's such a slippery champion, and the current meta has tons of that, yet she still wins a lot.
EndlessSorcerer10 votesTypically, having multiple tanks on your team provides good peel to protect her.
brad12 votesBecause there's actually no reason she should be stronger in a tank meta
Point to her %maxHP true damage all you want, but Vayne's weakness is lockdown by CC chains, since she's such a slippery champion, and the current meta has tons of that, yet she still wins a lot.
shes not slippery if you use stealth detection
and before you try and argue that even without the stealth she is, take a good, VERY LONG look at kalista
Yxgl222HaX2 voteskalista is like a multi target vayne on crack. Both take a decent amount of skill to use correctly though. Being good at kiting and orbwalking is a MUST for kalista players, while vayne you need a much greater terrain awareness (cri every teim i see a vayne condem a target in a manner that helps them) and you actually have to play the map not just play the champion, everyone says most vayne players suck- thats because shes out ranged by many adc's and takes more work to get her going. Yes shes a monster if fed but so what? any champ will slap your shit if you feed them. Tanks got so many buffs with the introduction of righteous glory and cinderhulk ect, Mid laners got louduins ecco, top laners use cinderhulk for the most part as well, what did adc's get? nothing yet they are the same as always. Sooooo whining about it kinda seems pointless dosent it? if anything she actually got a slight nurf with the cleaver changes taking a hit to its armour pen causing more lifesteal to be built on her than armour pen (i used to favor a LW and a cleaver now i just get a BT instead as like a fourth item)
Ser Garland1 votesA buff to BorK which is Vayne's first buy. Everyone else would first buy an IE or a BT, but not Vayne. Because she's a special snowflake. Fuck that try hard champion. In the right hands she's just better than everyone else.
Yxgl222HaX1 votes"in the right hands" - thats the problem here. Unless your laner is just way ahead in skill on the champion they are pretty likely to lose. Mabye one in every 10 vaynes i get on my team (and ezreals) actually do anything worth while. Kinda like jax it seems like he only ever gets fed if hes on the enemy team
Keevalroy5 votestake a good, VERY LONG look at kalista
I don't acknowledge that cancerous_ thing_ as a champion.
ChaoticPinecone12 votesWhat meta was Vayne not good in?
doublelift fg9 votesif i remember, she used to duel assassins except talon
Abyssphere1 votesA champion that shines and is good against the main meta is bad? Why should someone whose good at killing tanks be punished for shining in the tank meta?
People get nerfed for being too good in the meta all the time. It's not bad to shine in a meta - for example, sustained damage mages make complete sense mid and should be allowed their time at the table while the meta suits them, as long as they don't go too crazy. But a good example of a champ being TOO well-suited to the meta is Lissandra, who was a nightmare for every assassin to face and got nerfed as a result because she was just too strong. Vayne's in a very similar position.
ponkzy1 votesnot even two days ago someone had a thread with like 200 upvotes saying to nerf vayne. surprised you don't have 200 downvotes
Cupkek5 votesBecause % max HP TRUE damage is a healthy mechanic.
Kappa
In all seriousness though. An ADC that deals % max HP damage isn't generally a big deal, but when true damage is thrown into the mix, that brings up an issue. That issue being that you now have a champion that can mercilessly melt tanks just as fast as a squishy adc/apc. And considering it's an on-3rd-hit effect, there's no counterplay except to stay out of Vayne's way, which isn't a healthy option.
As a remedy, I would suggest Vayne be allowed to switch between % max hp magic and physical whenever the W button is pressed. It gives Vayne a bit more complexity than AA AA barrel roll AA condemn and gives tanks the opportunity to attempt to itemize against her, rather than getting pubstomped as quickly as another carry might.
manbearswine1 votesA champion that shines and is good against the main meta is bad? Why should someone whose good at killing tanks be punished for shining in the tank meta?
Well,because riot can often take ages to shift the meta,so you can't have a champion dominating it for that long.(It's more than the tank meta though,lane bully supports(and to a lesser extent adc) have fallen off,things like sona and nami are rarely seen,and vayne can generally survive against ali/thresh/janna/naut) unless it's thresh,then it's okay.(/s)
I don't know how I feel about it,but that's the way it is.
Only Play Darius1 votesBecause 
mains have to cry every meta where their mains aren't top tier.
Nasus is shit right now but I play him anyway (maybe not so much anymore now that splitpushing got buffed, but too early to tell)
Left Hook Larry1 votesNasus is not shit. Nasus has a cancerous kit that if you spam Q in lane for 20min you will 1 shot turrets
Anonagon15 votescan we finally make it so Vayne can't condemn someone in the middle of the lane into a wall? generous is a huge understatement for this ability
FalconPawwwwnch5 votesOr how about remove her stealth
In combat stealth is a stupid mechanic in this game
Twitch's stealth is fine because it's not in combat, and his stealth isn't instant either
TheI3igDaddy6 votesI'm concerned more with the fact that with her passive and a single red buff, barely anyone (save from the cancerous Riven) can get away from her. If she gets ahead, she can pick off whoever she chooses.
What Is Smite2 votesIn most case's you can't run away so you have to immediately turn and burst her ass down 100-0, and that is usually what I do whenever I play Jungle Fiora. Red smite vayne then full combo burst of Q>R>Q>E>hydra>W>botrk>aa's from here until she dies (if she hadn't died from the first 1/4 of the combo
BluePolarizer1 votesmeanwhile optimally played and built Vayne with diamond mechanics can E you after first Q then tumble away out of range.
What Is Smite1 votesI have gone against a diamond Azir with my Fiora and we went even, sure it's not Vayne but Azir has more ways to screw me over than just a stun.
EvilRabbitt1 votesInteresting Fiora combo, I usually Q>Auto>Hydra>E>Q>Auto>Ult. If they survive, I use bork. Always enter with my W on as well during that combo unless its an auto empower. Also, to Vayne's getting murdered by Fiora....depends. You have to be sneaky and bush whack her, otherwise coming in head-on will get you murdered (she only needs the stun).
What Is Smite1 votesyea usually the thing is that when I am close enough to smite her I am also in range of my Q so usually I pick her off when she just used her E or when the player just straight-up panic's and usually I make sure to get her in a very open plain so that she has no options of stunning me into a wall. The Q>R>Q is usually the sticking part of the combo and after the smite deals quite a bit of damage since after Q'ing onto her the 3s of true damage on 5 AA's is devastating to pretty much any champion the Q after is to continue sticking while they are at about 15-20% health the Q will drop them to 0-5% and hydra afterwards if they still lived from the 2nd Q
Silents4298 votesUm. How dare she be popular in a meta that favors her...?
Abyssphere3 votesUm. How dare she be popular in a meta that favors her...?
I think there is a difference between being popular in a meta that favours you and being dominant. The question is whether or not Vayne has crossed the line into being dominant rather than just popular. People get nerfed for being too strong in particular metas all the time, remember Lissandra getting nerfed because she was incredible in the assassin meta.
Irelia Bot7 votesThe biggest issue is that she gets 30/50/70 AD from her ult being active. It needs to be changed to something that is a little less reliable when behind. Say 25% of total AD. This would make her not benefit so greatly from rushing BotRK since her ult damage would be based on getting some real AD.
Beyond that perhaps increase her Q (by 1 second) and E (20/19/18/17/16 up from 20/18/16/14/12) cooldowns but make her ult when active reduce the time on these cooldowns by half a second for every auto attack.
But that is just my take on trying to limit her early to mid game power given her crazy power late game which is expected and where she should excel.
These are just ideas but it would keep her reliant on her ult to some degree for being a monster and make her have some real issues when behind that are not somewhat solved by pressing R and getting a flat amount of damage on the spot.
IcyPepper2 votesSounds like that ult change would somewhat buff her late-game, going off some Vayne builds and the whole "Q cooldown reduced by .5 seconds per auto attack." Not saying that's terrible, just noting it's a power shift rather than an outright nerf. I kind of like it, but it would require testing with a change like that in case the strengths outweigh the weakness.
AbodyHUN6661 votesI think a more lategame power focused change would be good on her. I mean she already has a godlike lategame, but she can just outplay early game champs, kill them and become godlike from the early game.
YossarianSensei6 votesThis Vayne QQ is pathetic
I'm a 'Diamond Vayne Main' and I still perform far better with Jinx/Graves under normal circumstances.
Vayne is a weak pick almost every game, she takes too long to scale in and she's too easy to shut down. Even if she does get her items, she doesn't have burst or AoE damage like most ADs. Unless I'm in a duo queue or my team picks amazing heroes that don't have any vulnerabilities, I don't pick Vayne
MohawkBird3 votes[deleted]
YossarianSensei4 votes 
You sure about that?
She has the potential to outplay almost anybody, but that doesn't mean she wins 1v1s by default. Moreover this game has next to nothing to do with 1v1s.
doublelift fg3 votesLucian and corki won't duel vayne, especially corki
Shifune4 votesLol, another one of these "X champion is picked a lot so they need to be nerfed" post. Once again, saying something should be done about a champion when you don't point out a single reason that something is wrong with them. So please, elaborate on what is wrong with Vayne before you just cry for nerfs.
MohawkBird1 votes[deleted]
Shifune1 votesOnce again, someone fails to present any actual reasons the champion needs to be changed. What about Vayne's kit puts her in need of a nerf? Vayne's kit excels in the current meta, that is all there is to it. Similar to how Malzahar and Amumu are basically tied for the highest win rate. Their kits excel in this meta because they can kill tanks. As soon as the meta changes, Vayne is going to go back to being that adc that still loses laning phase to just about every other adc in the game and has to hope the game last long enough for her to become relevant. If pick and win rate are the only stats you have, your argument is invalid.
EDIT: Almost half the champions in this game have an overall higher win rate than Vayne across all elo.
Kaskade xD3 votesShe has her strengths and weaknesses just like any other adc. Her strengths are killing high hp tanks and that fits this meta well.
So why should you nerf her ?
Because she fits in this meta ???
She has a rough early game to compensate her late game
WhaiSoSerious3 votes[{quoted}](name=Kaskade inc,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pJqXqTQb,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-06-27T07:19:16.748+0000)
She has her strengths and weaknesses just like any other adc. Her strengths are killing high hp tanks and that fits this meta well.
So why should you nerf her ?
Because she fits in this meta ???
She has a rough early game to compensate her late game
What are you talking bout dude. Vayne is the only adc that can absolutely suck balls early in the game and feed the other team into god mode and still come back.
Vayne can literally have the worst start ever and still punish the hell out of fed players mid-late game. That is not balance. The whole purpose of going tank is to be able to tank. Vayne completely neutralizes that with 2 items. bortk and ie or in some cases bortk alone.
No adc should be able to dominate players with 1-2 items regardless of their cs/kill ratio.
TwitchInMyPants2 votesWhat are you talking bout dude. Vayne is the only adc that can absolutely suck balls early in the game and feed the other team into god mode and still come back.
Vayne can literally have the worst start ever and still punish the hell out of fed players mid-late game. That is not balance. The whole purpose of going tank is to be able to tank. Vayne completely neutralizes that with 2 items. bortk and ie or in some cases bortk alone.
No adc should be able to dominate players with 1-2 items regardless of their cs/kill ratio.
Kog'Maw, Jinx, Lucian, Kalista, Tristana, and Draven all have powerspikes that are on level or debatably stronger than Vayne's for lategame items and they need the same amount of items to do their job. Vayne is just an older hypercarry, its not like adcs that suck early and destroy everything late is a new concept.
MohawkBird5 votes[deleted]
YossarianSensei3 votesWhat people don't understand is not dying =/= doing 'OK' in lane
All ADCs scale incredibly well, there's no way a Vayne down 50 CS by 15 minutes is going to have any influence over the game compared to someone like Graves
BluePolarizer2 voteslol what are you talking about? Vayne with 80 CS can assassinate Graves with 130 CS with absolutely no problem.
YossarianSensei1 votesMust be a really shitty Graves then
Champion picks won't turn a bad player good
BluePolarizer2 votesno they don't. Lucian and Draven can't do shit to tanks or bruisers late game 1v1 assuming equal gold and Kog only can kill tanks fast if he gets peel. In a 1v1 Kog can't do much. They still need peel. Vayne not only destroys tanks 1v1, she assassinates mid lane assassins and jungle/top bruisers 1v1.
ChaoticPinecone2 votesShe kills high HP tanks quicker than most ADCs, but thats not her strength. Her strength is her insane 1v1 potential (from her self peel to her ult steroid).
IMO she has 2 weaknesses: short range for an ADC and all single target damage. And her 'rough early game' is often exaggerated. At least you can chance a condemn into a wall, so you always have kill pressure with Vayne as long as you arent scared. Its not like, say, a Kassadin.
spombjop3 votesjinx and sivir have higher win rate than trash vayne
Linna Excel3 votesNothing needs to be done about it because she's supposed to be a good champ if you master her. Also her W really helps in the tank meta and at diamond, you need to be good at dealing with them as they know what they are doing.
Plus if she's getting a lot of peel, she'll do better late in the game.
BluePolarizer2 votesshe has a 20% pick rate lol. These guys aren't master Vayne mains.
TheHypeGoku2 votesBetter nerf Ashe.
TheHypeGoku3 votesAlso, a lot of people get to Diamond by playing flavor of the month champions. I'm sure (if you're Diamond) that you're no excuse. So you might be sitting there saying "Aw man why is Vayne in so many games?!". Well, it's because this game is based on the premise of picking the strong champs in the current meta. Does she need a nerf? I honestly don't think so, I just think there needs to be a change in itemization so that once she has sustain in lane, adc's don't have to worry about her gaining health back when they poke her, while they sit there with 0 sustain. What I mean by itemization is, enhance adc's build path so they can pursue early game health steal also.