Expecting to live forever just because you invest in pure defense is totally ridiculous.

HateDaddy·Feb 14, 2017·3 votes·687 views

There's no explanation needed. It's totally absurd to think you should live longer than 5-6 seconds as a full tank when being 5 man focused.

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meowwow7Feb 14, 20173 votes

basically for the same reason why dravens are expecting to 1 shot a rammus but instead 1 shot themselves*[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]*

Edge of DaybreakFeb 14, 20172 votes

In our amazing low elo world we do think that 1 persons 15000 gold of defense should make him immortal to 45000 gold worth of damage from 3 people while also letting that 1 person kill you. Why? IDK fuck it I play assassins nautilus just clicked R on me so I had time to type this while dead.

ParoeFeb 14, 20171 votes

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In our amazing low elo world we do think that 1 persons 15000 gold of defense should make him immortal to 45000 gold worth of damage from 3 people while also letting that 1 person kill you. Why? IDK fuck it I play assassins nautilus just clicked R on me so I had time to type this while dead.

item 3031 :3600g item 3085 :2600g item 3072 :3700g item 3036 :2700g item 3139 :3700g item 3006 :1100g Total: 17400g

item 3748 :3500g item 3065 :2800g item 3143 :2900g item 3111 : 1100g item 3068 :2900g item 3102 :2450g Total: 15650g.

The difference is under 2000 gold for an all-around defense build with a titanic hydra. But dont forget LW invalidates 45% of your bought armor; it lowers your entire worth to something like 13000g.

A marksman has to do nothing but buy offense stats, where you as the tank have to buy hybrid defenses which are heavily reduced in the first place. You dont buy armor items as a tank for the armor; you buy it for the health and utility.

Edge of DaybreakFeb 14, 20171 votes

That's cool and all but it had almost nothing to do with my post. In no situation should a guy spending way less gold than multiple people on are spending on offense be able to be immortal to them. That logic is insane and people post as if they die too quickly to multiple people focusing them with over 3 times their gold. Roles building correctly doesn't change this.

ParoeFeb 14, 20171 votes

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That's cool and all but it had almost nothing to do with my post. In no situation should a guy spending way less gold than multiple people on are spending on offense be able to be immortal to them. That logic is insane and people post as if they die too quickly to multiple people focusing them with over 3 times their gold. Roles building correctly doesn't change this.

It doesnt have "ALmost nothing" its the crux of your argument. Even a full armor build doesnt cost more than 16000g. The difference in gold in less than 2000 for most builds regardless; theres no reason why that little gold should be so dominantly out classing someone else.

Edge of DaybreakFeb 14, 20171 votes

MULTIPLE CHAMPIONS SPENDING OVER 3 TIMES YOUR GOLD IN DAMAGE SHOULD BE ABLE TO KILL YOU. YOU SHOULD ->NEVER <- EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO TANK 3 TIMES YOUR GOLD IN DAMAGE FOR LONGER THAN A FEW SECONDS.

This is my argument. You are talking about a 1v1 scenario I am talking about people trying to tank multiple damage sources. The difference isn't 2000 gold when taking into account multiple champions.

BluePolarizerFeb 14, 20171 votes

Defense has to be spread across 2 resist stats that dont scale off each other while offense, in particular sustained physical DPS only requires buying a lot of multiplicative stats that are also pretty cheap.

ParoeFeb 14, 20171 votes

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There's no explanation needed. It's totally absurd to think you should live longer than 5-6 seconds as a full tank when being 5 man focused.

I mean As a full physical protection tank in SMITE i can live for ~10 seconds under sustained fire from three marksman building crit/attack speed.