How many people are done with having Blue Ez on their teams?

Poptart Evelynn··78 votes·5,245 views

Just curious if it's just me being salty or if it's really everybody experiencing the same pain.

I see huge fights and boom Ez is hitting like a wet noodle.

Or I watch bot lane trade a kill each and when they get back Ez has a Tear/Boots and the enemy ADC has a BF sword then they lose horribly.

91 Comments

Slamurai Jack36 votes

Blue Ezreal is really only worth it if you farm really well. Most players farm like ass. Blue Ezreal should really only be a high elo thing because they're the only players that consistently CS well enough to make it worth it.

Crossette3 votes

I've actually been doing well as blue Ez mid, he's one of the champions where I actually focus on farming.

TaoistMaster20 votes

most players farm like ass.

most players play like ass.

doesn't mean some players can play well.

my friend that i duo with a lot likes blue ez. he plays it well.

and yeah, ive seen it fail.

but we shouldnt just discourage people from playing a champion a certain way because they play like ass. maybe they wont play like ass.

if they are ass players. then just hope they are on the enemy team

Slamurai Jack15 votes

It's not particularly meant to discourage you from playing it if you're already making it work. All I really said was that Blue Ezreal is extremely reliant on reaching certain powerspikes by a certain time, moreso than any other adc. Blue Ezreal needs to not only get his items in a timely manner so that he can keep up with other adcs, but he also needs to then use that power to win the game before the blue build falls off. Blue Ezreal is one of those champions that is both extremely farm reliant and falls off hard, and that means your CSing needs to be absolutely on point. It's kind of like picking Udyr or Shyvana jungle. Both champions are heavily reliant on getting ahead of the curve by farming extremely quickly, and then using that lead to end the game before they get outscaled. If you suck at jungle pathing, you really shouldn't be picking those champions. Blue Ezreal is exactly the same.

Raven Redeemed1 votes

The thing is blue Ez is all about the poke. With the 30% cdr ult and the extra dmg/aoe slow on his Q, he is perfectly happy to avoid team fights and instead poke people down (and maybe get picks with Iceborn). The cdr his E also makes him very hard to catch against a lot of different team comps. That being said, his team fight impact certainly runs the risk sub-par compared to other adcs. As such it can be annoying to play with him since you team fight may be weaker than normal. It's not to hard to make a big impact as blue Ez though (I don't play him, but I see a lot of him like you).

As annoying as it can be to play against him sometimes, I think it's cool he can change the way he impacts the game based on his build path. He provides poke, low cd/global wave clear, improved safety, and cc in exchange for raw team fight dmg (unless he hits his power spikes early).

That's my take on thing anyway.

MÖRTIMER1 votes

i mean im bronze and I farm pretty damn good

Bonipherus8 votes

Riot goofed on ez with the marksman update. Trinity and essence essence reaver were supposed to be his staple items and iceborn was supposed to be a niche. Thing is essence reaver doesn't give mana back except on crits, trinity has no ap, and getting er and trinity won't give you the full 30% cdr from essence reaver due to trinity's lower crit value. The only other crit item he might possibly care about would be statikk shiv for the wave clear but that item is underwhelming too and, again, can't crit with his q. Also with full cdr, ezreal's q is left with a cooldwon timer below the necessary 1.5 second spellblade passive making using it awkward to proc trinity. Trinity and shiv also scale worse into late game as their damage stops ramping up while other items scale better with their superior damage multipliers.

Xyltin7 votes

The problem is that people acutally don't know how to play Ez. They always see his Q and R and think it is ok to just do that. What they are missing is that he hs a 50% AS boost and his AAs are a huge part of his DPS and even the burst combos.

A bad Ez will just go blue build and sit at 800+ range while spamming Q and being safe. He won't do anything useful except finishing off someone now and then but he thinks he is doing fine.

The other thing is the early tear into trading. They don't respect the enemy that is stronger at that time. Then they don't stack it fast enough and end up with their power spike delayed to 30+ minutes while it should be at 22-25 minutes.

Most people that pick Ez would be way better when they just go Triforce and try to use his AA when possible. It is not like his AA range is bad.

WingsofGulgazor2 votes

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The problem is that people acutally don't know how to play Ez. They always see his Q and R and think it is ok to just do that. What they are missing is that he hs a 50% AS boost and his AAs are a huge part of his DPS and even the burst combos.

A bad Ez will just go blue build and sit at 800+ range while spamming Q and being safe. He won't do anything useful except finishing off someone now and then but he thinks he is doing fine.

The other thing is the early tear into trading. They don't respect the enemy that is stronger at that time. Then they don't stack it fast enough and end up with their power spike delayed to 30+ minutes while it should be at 22-25 minutes.

Most people that pick Ez would be way better when they just go Triforce and try to use his AA when possible. It is not like his AA range is bad.

I got my tear stacked at 16 mins once and had my triforce completed at the time. To say the least my Q's were doing half of some peoples health.

Xyltin1 votes

It is possible, but it is as likely as going 5/0 with a champ in the laning phase and then it doesn't matter what you actually bought because you are just fed at that time.

The average time for Muramana + Triforce is ~22 minutes, should not be later than 25 minutes. And at that time your Qs alone won't do that much dmg against a frontliner. When you are ahead it may be enough to play safe, but Ez has a weaker but safer laning phase and with tear a weaker early and mid game till he got his powerspike with the 2 items. So it is more likely that you are behind at that time as Ez and now you need to use that powerspike to get ahead and that transition is the problem for a lot of players. When you are behind a bit your Q won't do the immense amount of dmg you need, your AA with the +50% AS combined with the Q will do the dmg you need.

RightClickYou6 votes

I am the Blue Ez....so I am not done having me on my team.

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12/18/0 3 AD Quints 9 AD Marks 9 Armor Seals 6 Scaling CDR 3 Flat MR

The champion is not the problem here, it is the summoner.

quasistellar1 votes

Actually, I think the problem with blue Ez is people still using goddamn BotRK. I go muramana, ice borne, then essence reaver. If you build BotRK your damage levels off at a point in the game where you need it to ramp UP. Then I build situational items like a Last Whisper item or Bloodthirster or Mercurial. I don't think the active or attack speed on BotRK are worth it between Iceborne and Ez's passive.

I even see the LCS pros still building BotRK and losing, so I don't think I'm wrong. Plus, when you get that CDR maxed, your Q can be fired almost as often as a Jinx rocket Q, with the added bonus that Iceborne gives.

Zenima3 votes

ER is a bad choice, gives crit in a build with no crit, so doesn't actually ramp up the damage that much. Would be better with Ghostblade or Death's Dance if you really want that 10% CDR.

I've always figured Botrk was chosen to help Ez deal with tanks, as without crit he is one of the weakest adc's against a tanky composition.

NazZomLord4 votes

item 3042 item 3078 item 3508 item 3031 item 3046 item 3009 Uh...This is what i build on Ez when i can. I just go for these items and i do a pretty nice chunk of damage. I know its not a practical build but it can carry a game rather well. I never liked the usual blue build :/

Poptart Evelynn1 votes

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Penta Penguin4 votes

You are such a pretentious jerk with a memelord name, please bug off and go back to playing Ranked

Poptart Evelynn1 votes

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You are such a pretentious jerk with a memelord name, please bug off and go back to playing Ranked

Memelord name? I just get bored and make funny names all the time. I change my name once a week.

LF Annie1 votes

damn, i thought i was slick changing it once a month.

Mael bro3 votes

Cause AD Ezreal is a glorified caster minion.

sirwaterfles3 votes

Mhe still a nice change from having a vayne every single game.

StoppedDig796053 votes

Hehe I main Varus and sometimes Ez and man am i enjoying this so much (sorry I do have a heart sometimes) I just really dont want them to break his legs because i love the blue ez stye I would play Blue varus in season 5 and it my favorite thing, maybe its just me idk but i think its a relativly balanced playstile that was already gutted in preseason (Blue Varus not Ez) before you get manamune and iceborn you not doing dick tons of dmg and ez is completly skillshot based so he has to lane things in order to do dmg. Then again its just my opinion and bios tell me what you think but i dont want riot to break my favorite playstyles legs

1st Movement2 votes

Strong bc if ice born gauntlet for pie and extend fights and makes him Tanky

Poptart Evelynn23 votes

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Strong bc if ice born gauntlet for pie and extend fights and makes him Tanky

I don't want my adc to be tanky or to extend the fight. I want him to end the fight.

MunchCrunchLunch20 votes

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I don't want my adc to be tanky or to extend the fight. I want him to end the fight.

your adc? anyone can play the way they want as long as they are getting somewhere. blue ezreal build is a good build. not so much against tanky team but its a good build with poke comps

Poptart Evelynn8 votes

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your adc? anyone can play the way they want as long as they are getting somewhere. blue ezreal build is a good build. not so much against tanky team but its a good build with poke comps

I disagree. If someone wants to ADC as heimer then they aren't taking ranked serious.

MunchCrunchLunch10 votes

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I disagree. If someone wants to ADC as heimer then they aren't taking ranked serious.

i said as long as they are getting somewhere. blue ezreal build isn't bad.

Erockandroll6 votes

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I don't want my adc to be tanky or to extend the fight. I want him to end the fight.

And I want champions who can peel.

But if my team drafts riven top, Zed mid, and Raka support, you better believe that I will pick the best kiting ADC in the game.

UB3R 1337 H4X3 votes

Kalista ?

Wimbledofy3 votes

kalista can only kite if she can auto someone. Ezreal can kite almost any kind of champion, kalista can only a few types of champions like immobile melees.

Erockandroll4 votes

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Kalista ?

yeah, I'm saying that Ez with his E, his long range poke, and the slow on ICB makes him better in kiting than either Kalista or Ashe. (The one who supposedly started mobility creep.)

Though actually my initial example was some what bad. With Riven top and Zed mid, Unless you had an AP Jungler, you would be better off playing corki and offer the added magic damage to an otherwise AD comp.

TDubH1 votes

Ooh an old guy, please tell me, how did ashe start mobility creep??? i'd never suspect her of it because shes the farthest one from it in my opinion.

XIII Vanitas3 votes

That's not an option when you have to face 2 or more assassins in the enemy team and your team does a poor job peeling for you. I like (and I repeat, like, not play, I'm a jungle main) blue Ezreal because he's really safe and provides constant poke and aoe slow. He's more oriented towards utility than damage and I think he's really viable if you already have two carries (jungle/top and mid).

Solaxo3 votes

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I don't want my adc to be tanky or to extend the fight. I want him to end the fight.

ADC - Attack Damage Carry. Not "Quickly Ending Games Carry"

Jerks like you are what kills variety in this game.

IcyPepper1 votes

I don't think he was being a jerk, he made a fair point...

im tilt2 votes

no not really, ez is the only adc im good at, and now since iceborn is super strong i play blue ez a lot, i dont do bad, you just gotta get good at stacking tear, but, im in bronze so ......#placements

dr lichdeath2 votes

dunno but tank ez is nice his q with that long range and dem heals

CasterGilgamesh2 votes

i fucking hate ezreal if Vayne Blitzcrank did not exist he would be my trigger.

On Your Side2 votes

Personally I like supporting Ezreal. Yes, you need to be aware his power spike doesn't come as fast as most other carries but when you're used to playing in the bot lane then it's really not all that different from when the enemy carry gets a lead and you have to avoid trading anyway.

The advantage to playing with an Ezreal is that his kit makes him extremely flexible. He can farm at long if he falls behind, he can poke very aggressively, he can jump in and burst extremely well, he can dodge all sorts of abilities other carries couldn't get out of (e.g. Blitz hook), he's usually more map aware because of his ultimate and he becomes extremely good at protecting you when he gets his items.

Vayne or Kalista are Champions I get tired of supporting a lot. They both tend to be more aggressive than they should be, they both want very specific types of support Champions and they both have a relatively hard time playing safe if you fall behind. I would take Ezreal over them any day.

A Bad Mystic1 votes

Honestly i think people forget when you play blue ez you are actually supposed to auto attack. admittedly since the marksman update i havent played ez much but his playstyle even as blue should still involve aaing the enemy. With manamune, ibg, ie, er, lucidity, and bork you should output relatively good dps still with autos and abilities.

Edit: Wow i need to play blue ez again, dont even need the lucidity boots anymore. zerkers here i come.

Bodkins Odds2 votes

If Blue Ez was merely replacing Trinity Force with IBG that would be a completely different story. As it is, he's building the old IBG, Manamune, BorK build from seasons past which not only makes his power spike take longer it also lowers his damage considerably. Which would be fine if people understood what Blue Ezreal was good for (kiting people to death) and only picked him in appropriate situations, but instead they pick him every game because a pro played him.

A Bad Mystic1 votes

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If Blue Ez was merely replacing Trinity Force with IBG that would be a completely different story. As it is, he's building the old IBG, Manamune, BorK build from seasons past which not only makes his power spike take longer it also lowers his damage considerably. Which would be fine if people understood what Blue Ezreal was good for (kiting people to death) and only picked him in appropriate situations, but instead they pick him every game because a pro played him.

I prefer playing blue ez or adc ez (ie, atk spd item, zerks, damage item, damage item, atk spd item/another damage item) rather than playing trinity force ez. I know hes really good with triforce, i just dont like how he feels when i build it.

Blueportal1 votes

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RightClickYou2 votes

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Yo dude, I just logged in as you to see if this worked.

You should probably change your password.

Weathered1 votes

Last three ezreals I've had semi carried and had very good kda's. Must be rank specific ._.

SSJTribe1 votes

For me it's been one of those "our Rengar/Shaco/Vayne etc. vs Theirs"

The blue Ezreal on my team feeds really hard while the enemy blue Ezreal is godlike.

For Carthage1 votes

It's knowing what you're aiming to build against.

Blue Ez exceeds in kiting immobile champs and keeping them in place.

Trinity Ez exceeds in poke damage from afar and some pretty mean burst.

The other thing is a Blue Ez stays alive against champs like Zed, Talon, etc. where a Trinity Ez blows up.

It's not Blue Ez that's really the problem so much as people not understanding that he is actually a versatile champ that has multiple builds that are appropriate at different times, but none of them do everything. But people want to believe that their build does everything.

eaglei31 votes

I am fine with blue EZ. It is usually the player that plays him incorrectly and causes the poor performance.

He gets a very bad rap for supposedly doing no dmg in teamfights. I feel bad for the person playing blue EZ cause they are always the escape goat for a team doing no dmg while the game is going on. Then you get to post game and they have 30k dmg while the mid complaining only did 16k dmg.

Odesza1 votes

I think it's more of the people playing ezreal that's the problem. Focus farming early game and blue build ezreal becomes a monster.

FlippyGoneTrippy1 votes

If you think Blue Ez does no damage check out the post-game screen. I assure you he is not hitting like a wet noodle.

Livin like Riven1 votes

I've mained Ezreal since mid S4, and while I've always been unranked and kinda blow at the game, I've been in games against all plats in a Silver ranked team last season(dat matchmaking tho) where I stomped, if that counts for anything. So, here's my insight.

I like Blue build. It's pretty fun and I dive towers 20x more than I really should, so the armor helps. That being said, Blue build is pointless unless you're pretty bad at Ezreal, you've got a rough team comp to go against, or your team is hella good and can play to your blue build. Even if you still want tear, TF ER Ezreal not only does more damage with Q's unless you happen to hit one while triforce is still on cooldown, in which case IBG does ~13 whopping extra damage as opposed to the 70 or so extra on TF. It also snowballs much harder, gets CDR while still building damage, and ENCOURAGES AUTOATTACKING, which most Ezreal players seem to avoid like the plague for some reason or another.

Overall, you're sacrificing poke, snowball, and all in potential for a slow and some armor. But the slow isn't needed on Ezreal, since he's the safest ADC, and I've honestly found phage MS and Zeal MS from triforce more effective at kiting enemies than a slow, because in most situations, an enemy's movespeed isn't why Ezreal died, it's their gapcloser and lockdown. That, and the ensuing followup. But with IBG, you'd only be increasing relative speed towards the people who you've slowed, not the rest of their team. Phage + Zeal speed + Merc Scimitar will pretty much get you out of anything, there's really no need for the slow. Most people who will have more MS than your triforce speed after they've jumped on you have likely already killed you, and would likely do the same regardless of Iceborn. I also just really like where Ezreal's AS sits with a properly stacked passive and a TF, personally. Not so low you feel clunky, but not so high you're wasting it stats because you're tossing Qs.

Another thing I see people doing is immediately upgrading to Manamune. I prefer to keep it as a tear and buy a sheen for the poke and farm, then finish my TF item. Once you've got tear, if you've got it, you need it to hit Muramana ASAP. While it might sound good on paper, "Oh, I can proc TWO tear stacks if I Q something and it lands!" you lose the one mana per 8 seconds passive, which is 4 mana(1 stack) every 32 seconds. 2 stacks a minute, at the 15-20 minutes you'll have tear for, is 120-160 mana out of the 750 needed, so as long as you're casting spells at a good rate, you'll actually stack it much faster without upgrading.

Possibly the worst, though, is when people build tear every game. Some games it's just ridiculous to buy, either because you're snowballing so hard it's better to just buy damage, or because you'll definitely need the combat stat edge when everyone gets level 6. I still have no idea why people insist on buying a tear against other Ezreals, knowing full right well that if he buys a sheen, they're going to get rolled so hard they won't have any impact on the game.

Last, but not least, Blue build kind of encourages new players to say "Oh, I've got armor and MR from merc scimitar, I'm beefy and safe!", then proceed to overextend, overestimating the value of their safety. IBG's safety gap between Triforce can easily be closed with proper positioning and awareness of the Triforce user, and it's honestly just easier to make picks with TF Ezreal. If you're in a team where you need IBG's slow to make a pick, chances are you're in a bad team comp.

TL;DR, Blue build has less damage and since it's the flavor of the week people don't auto as much as they should be, either, resulting in even less damage, and generally get fully stacked way too late.

Added note: If you go for TF ER, even if you start lagging behind, you'll be decently relevant. If you go for blue build and ANYTHING goes wrong, chances are wet noodles are going to start getting together and making fun of how weak you hit.

That disorganized ramble aside, I'm not done with it on my team because it's still decent enough to play. But if you REALLY wanna build IBG and help your team, the optimal build path is definitely armor quints & seals, IBG, Frozen Heart, Deadman's, double thornmail. AOE slow's hella cash, 100% legit, Ezreal top new meta.

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