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Immobile short range adc's (basically im talking ab draven)

Woook3r··1 votes·817 views

I know adc's are really powerfull and all, but its really just the ones with huge range or great abilities and mobility. The 550 range adcs with no abilities are not that strong. Draven can snowball sure, but it doesnt matter if the renekton can oneshot him and tank .8 seconds of dmg from your allies. He either zones the shit out of you or kills you. Theres just not enough to keep draven safe within his kit. I need an item or just a MS buff or idk what. No one will buff dravens MS tho. And its too hard for my allies to peel for me, when the enemy single mindedly tunnels on me..

What could draven get that makes him a little less vulnerable when top lane gets fed and he is being hunted? More hp would help. More wards would help. More MS would help. No one wants to give draven more MS tho. Can we have an earlier farsight trink in duo lanes? That would be awesome. Can we put the slow from BORK on another item?

If im on draven and a fed enemy has multiple dashes, they can completely shut down my farming game if they want to, bc whenever I am in attack range, I am inside their dash range, and my e will only stop a dash if I predict it really well. The animation is very slow. My only help would be to have a better system of wards to see them coming from really far away, or to just be much faster than them, I think. Or maybe I should max e second Idk. Thats not standard.

Draven is my favorite champion, but he really doesnt do that well for some reason. I can destroy my lane 9/10 times, and 10/10 times with a decent support. But out of all the adc's, he is probably the easiest to dive even though he defiantly is not the hardest carry anymore.

I dont know why he gets so much of a rap for high dmg, when his q does only about 275 dmg max and doesnt crit. A full build adc does ab 1k dmg with a crit. Draven does ab 1.2k with a q crit. Thats not a huge difference. Corkies ult does more dmg in a teamfight and does magic dmg at a better range.

If his lack of safety is because of his snowball, I wish that mechanic was just gone and he could get caitlyns range. I dont even like it when I snowball with him. It makes the game boring and slightly unfair. Additionally, since this meta is supposed to be all about snowball, why isnt draven king?

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Buldozer bre2 votes

Draven used to be king of adc's, now he is just a joke. With hes auto attack nerfs, and riot not compensating hes damage in s6 + Jhin release draven is just not worth playing anymore. What he can, other adc's can do way better with less risk and more reward... And when i get even fed, as draven i push turrets and so on, when im vs a heavy team fight setup i get deleted. Dravens low range makes him die....

Woook3r1 votes

Yes. And people continue to say he just takes skill to play.

TehNACHO1 votes

That's the entire point of Draven. He is the high risk high reward carry. Taking away the risk factor will either make him broken as a champion or force riot to nerf his power later down the line, both of which are terrible in the long run.

The reason why he isn't king is that there are other ADCs right now that have the high reward comparable to Draven without nearly the risk.

Woook3r1 votes

Who decided he was "the high risk high reward carry?" and who decided to give him lower rewards than say, corkie or jinx. Cause a fed corkie is better than draven. Corkie just isnt in your face with a blood thirster. Hes in the back poking your butthole into submission. Thats the difference lol. The reward for getting fed is the same no matter the champion and its really high. Draven just snoballs so hard in some situations that he can play like a he-man and get away with it.

its really not even fun most of the time. Its just like, you sit there and wonder why your team doesnt do a better job of taking advantage of the beast mode draven you have created. And wait for them to get shit together and push a tower down.

TehNACHO1 votes

Riot did when they reworked his Passive.

Bet you didn't even know he made people Bleed.

Woook3r1 votes

I did know, and I find it funny that deathfire touch mastery does not work on him.

Hayaishi21 votes

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Who decided he was "the high risk high reward carry?" and who decided to give him lower rewards than say, corkie or jinx. Cause a fed corkie is better than draven. Corkie just isnt in your face with a blood thirster. Hes in the back poking your butthole into submission. Thats the difference lol. The reward for getting fed is the same no matter the champion and its really high. Draven just snoballs so hard in some situations that he can play like a he-man and get away with it.

its really not even fun most of the time. Its just like, you sit there and wonder why your team doesnt do a better job of taking advantage of the beast mode draven you have created. And wait for them to get shit together and push a tower down.

Draven is impossible to trade against if he has a BF sword, that alone is good enough.

Woook3r1 votes

And his win rate reflects this?

I played against a nami mf yesterday. They were completely out of position So far apart. I did my all in with e and w. They both pressed R and I died before I was done being knocked up. Lesson learned but please stop acting like draven is a god. Hes got a 51% win rate and some of the highest average games played.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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That's the entire point of Draven. He is the high risk high reward carry.

Except there are low risk high reward ADCs right now (Ex: Ezreal/Corki/Lucian/etc.).

Draven has fallen behind.

Woook3r1 votes

Thank you. Its true. He needs range or a spell shield or something. I almost feel bad asking ppl to peel renekton for me lol.

TehNACHO2 votes

The reason why he isn't king is that there are other ADCs right now that have the high reward comparable to Draven without nearly the risk.

Did you really not read the rest of the post.

Woook3r1 votes

what does the post have to do with his comment?

TehNACHO1 votes

Wow what the fuck is this response time.

I state that Draven is a high risk high reward carry, however he's hindered by low risk high reward carries. Dominick states that he's hindered by low risk high reward carries. I restate the end of my first post, where I said Draven is hindered by low risk high reward carries.

My post is literally his comment, but he responded to me as if he was refuting what I said.

Woook3r1 votes

Also, if you remove his passive, that would remove the overpowered ness of him and leave room to make his kit actually function within the current state of the game which will never again favor an adc without some form of reliable peel and range and mobility and safety. Seriously tho, draven will never be meta in his current state.

alfavhunter1 votes

How Draven survives a fed top laner

His support

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