People who think they can disregard the adc and play however they want

Woook3r·Mar 19, 2016·2 votes·596 views

Are fucking stupid as hell and deserve to be in bronze. When the adc asks you to ult zed, when you are playing vi, then you should fucking do it.

30 Comments

Horse GrenadesMar 19, 20167 votes

Rough game, big guy?

Woook3rMar 19, 20161 votes

yes. this is what i always do after a rough game.

RedesignatedMar 19, 20164 votes

There's a thing called "personal diaries," you know.

Athenes LuluMar 20, 20161 votes

Hey at least he isn't getting punished IN GAME.

Nowhere to vent? Better vent on the forums and collect free downvotes.

RedesignatedMar 19, 20163 votes

Marksman isn't the only person that's important in a game. Your jungler isn't your slave. Zed needs heavier focusing than a Vi ult unless there's additional sources of crowd control on him, or he's already pretty solidly damaged; and there can, surprisingly, be bigger threats than Zed. Or the team could be out of position for them to follow up on her ult. Or she could tell that people are probably waiting to counter-engage. Or any other number of factors beyond flat-out ignoring you.

You deserve to be in Bronze for having an over-inflated sense of self-importance.

Woook3rMar 19, 20161 votes

So you would point blank refuse to peel for your adc? And watch while zed uses his escape to gap close on the adc? When he did this before you blew your ult cooldown, would you just ult him? Or would you say fuck the adc im going to ult the support?

RedesignatedMar 19, 20161 votes

That entirely depends on what the rest of the team is, and how the situation is as a whole. If you have other people near you who can peel, or, say, Quick Silver Sash (which why would you not get that against Zed if he's being a threat) for his ult and a means to get some room yourself (Caitlyn's net, Tristana's jump and ult, Ashe's ult, Vayne's Condemn and ult + Tumble…) , then it would be overkill and leave you with less options to deal with the rest of the team.

The bottom line is, you're being really obnoxious, not trying to pay attention to anything that could have been your own fault (positioning? Item choices? Map awareness?) and I sure as hell wouldn't try to save you if you were acting like this.

Woook3rMar 19, 20161 votes

It was a 2 vs 1 in the jungle when she first fucked up. Zed used shadow swap from midlane to get close to me. I stunned him with my arrow from the wolves camp. Vi q'd into the river from below the wolves and ulted annie. Zed ulted me and I died.

I should have rushed mercurial, but I fucked up and bought a bfs. That doesnt excuse the vi who was playing like she had her screen locked.

Edit: She literally ignored him and went for the support. Then we lost 2 towers. Please explain how going for the support was a proactive thing to do. Please explain why it was unreasonable to ask her to protect the 7/3/1 adc when everyone else on the team, other than the vi, was completly feeding. We had 0 dmg outside of myself and vi. I should have been a priority carry, but no. She went for annie or the enemy jungler more than once and left me alone.

Woook3rMar 19, 20161 votes

Ashe has a stun. Vi ult then ashe stun. She isnt my slave shes my teammate and she was acting like I was useless when I was 7/3/1. She completely ignored me and ulted the annie support in 2/3 fights. She was constantly leaving the team without pinging so that we would be in a seige scenario and then she would just q over to the blue buff or red buff, leaving us in a 3 vs 4.

Why the fuck would you try to defend her against me? The only thing you know is that she refused to cooperate with her teammate. You just assume that im being bad, probably because you yourself dont know how to peel for someone.

RedesignatedMar 19, 20163 votes

Why the fuck would you try to defend her against me?

Because you're the one crying about it on the boards where nobody's going to care and acting high-and-mighty as hell, then pretending we're the dumb ones because we weren't in the match with you. So yes, you're being bad, whether it was in the game or just in general.

Woook3rMar 19, 20161 votes

Im sure that bronze Vi weighed each and every one of these factors before making her educated decision.

DrehirthMar 19, 20163 votes

Why were you playing with a bronze vi again?

Unstoppable MonkMar 19, 20162 votes

Lol people like OP are the reason why the support role itself is permanently on tilt.

RedesignatedMar 19, 20162 votes

As a support main, can attest to this.

DrehirthMar 19, 20162 votes

ye and why we have to constantly put up with threads about supports stroking their egos...

Unstoppable MonkMar 19, 20162 votes

To be fair its the only place they are ever going to get their ego stroked in league on a regular basis.

Woook3rMar 19, 20162 votes

You guys think your are so cool, but you have no idea what that game was like, and you probably dont do a very good job of peeling yourselves.

RedesignatedMar 19, 20163 votes

You're right, we don't know what that game was like. So stop acting like we: 1) do; 2) care.

Woook3rMar 19, 20162 votes

You just want to trash someone and the fact that you are so eager to do it, despite having no facts shows something about your character.

Pandemic PunchMar 19, 20162 votes

-Whether or not people think they are cool or not is irrelevant.

-If you want us to know what the game was like, do better at describing it.

-If I am Vi and an adc asks me to ult the high mobility Zed, there are a number of variables to consider. Am I tanky enough? Is this ADC consistent at making optimal shot calls? Is there a better target to ult before I ult a zed who can potentially flash and shadow to bait me all the way to the tier 2 turret? Will I have to tank 9001 minions? Can I tank 9001 minions and the enemies long enough for my ult to be effective? Is there another target that would be a better priority like an out of position kog'maw? Do we know where all of the enemies are? Can we get anything out of this fight for it to be worth it in the first place? Does the other jungler have vision on me and is waiting to counter gank? Does my ADC deal enough damage to take out the target before I die? Does my ADC have enough health? Does my ADC need or have ult ready? Do I need to wait for the enemy to act first and surprise them with a counter gank? Do I need to wait for them to engage first so I can peel and then use the ult as counter engage? Junglers that are higher than our skill level can process all of this information instantly.

If you were really good at the game, you would be climbing the ladder rather than complaining on the forums. You need to do whatever it takes to get better at the game yourself if you are tired of playing with people that you think are worse than you.

Woook3rMar 19, 20161 votes

The fact that you even bring up these really complex calculations in reference to what I should have thought about in a bronze game is fucking stupid. The only thing that Vi needed to consider was that she was 3/3/2, her adc was 7/3/1, her midlaner was 0/7/something, an her top laner was 3/6/4. If zed kills the adc, there is 0 chance the next teamfight will go well. Absolutely 0 chance. None.

You act like its complicated. Its really about the fact that the two pple on the team who ARENT useless ( me and vi) needed to work together. I needed peel, she needed more dmg. She has peel. I have dmg + my own peel.

Hmmm. She could have stopped my death with her ult.

Or not! It doesnt make a difference if ulting zed WOUNDNT have saved me, because without that ult I had no chance and without the SOLE SOURCE OF DMG ON THE TEAM we were doomed without me. And we were doomed. I died and then they got two towers. It didnt matter that vi ulted the enemy support. They still got the towers.

What you are saying, its like debating the merits of CPR (which is really dangerous) when you are already having a heart attack. NOT because I am the adc. Its because I was the only person on the team who wasnt feeding or simply going even (as the vi was).

I am climbing. I just tilt easily and stop playing for long periods.

Pandemic PunchMar 19, 20162 votes

I did not read your entire post because you think the points I made are irrelevant. I disagree. I think it is the primary reason you are struggling. These are not calculations to players who are really good at the game. They are instinctual. In my opinion, if you are not willing to better yourself at the game then you are in no place to be mad at someone else for potentially making a mistake.

You have shown that you are really angry and not willing to listen to anyone. Thus making this entire thread pointless. It is time for this thread to get dumpstered.

Woook3rMar 19, 20162 votes

You didnt read my post because you have nothing to offer and you know it. I played a game once where I tried peeling for someone. I was ahri and the only person on my team who wasnt completely irrelevant was pre-rework fiora and she was being targeted by a fed diana.

I didnt bitch at her for not building mr. I didnt try to solo carry. I just sat in the back and didnt do anythiing until diana dried to all in my fiora. Then we won the game despite the fact that I was going even and fiora was the only one on our team with real dmg or gold. I even bought chalice so that I would never have to worry about mana or cooldowns, because I wasnt selfish like Vi. I knew that I could get carried if I committed to peeling. And I did get carried. Despite how that sounds, we would have lost without me. Thats how Vi should have seen the game. Instead of being satisfied with a win, she had to satisfy herself with bragging about the 3 assist differential in our kda and 700 gold difference in our income. She was literally trash talking me at the end of the game claiming that the 12/3/4 zed had nothing to do with why we lost and I shouldnt be asking for peel.

Pandemic PunchMar 19, 20161 votes

No, I did not read your whole post because you disregarded my side of the argument. That means you are being irrational and you will have to learn everything the hard way.

Woook3rMar 19, 20162 votes

and you disregarded mine.

Pandemic PunchMar 19, 20161 votes

No, I responded to it in a rational manner. I delved into your argument and responded to it. You did not respond to the content in my argument because you disregarded it right off of the bat. Irrational.

Woook3rMar 19, 20162 votes

You didnt read my counter argument. How do you say your are rational? You dont know what I wrote or how it applies as a response to your comment .

Pandemic PunchMar 20, 20161 votes

I apologize to Riot if I broke a rule in an earlier post. However, I do not apologize to you especially if you are the one who reported me for it. You have posts all over this thread being passive aggressive and subtly insulting to people and they have not yet been deleted. Yet I send a video that subtly insults you (for the first time) and it is deleted.

If my one tiny post that wasn't even a blatant insult was deleted, then so should the majority of your posts on this thread. Don't worry, I am not going to report anything. I still think you could be a lot more polite and take other people's opinions more seriously and with courtesy. Treating people with respect can go a long way. I have a bad habit of forgetting that when someone initiates disrespect.

Woook3rMar 20, 20161 votes

Earning respect can go a long way as well..

Heres a quiz for you. What are the three best times to use exhaust? You can earn some respect if you can answer the question.