Idea: Renekton has 100 Fury for the entire duration of his Ultimate

Kingsgrave·Dec 13, 2014·5 votes·1,044 views

Maybe this would make him good again? **The general goal of this is to make him feel like he is really using an ability called "Dominus" and give him a tad more late game power without drastically powering up his early game. **

The duration of his Ultimate would be reduced to 10 seconds from 15, thus reducing the AoE Magic damage he deals overall.

Also, his Empowered Abilities could get an internal cooldown for each much like Rengar of like 16/14/12 seconds or so. Give him more power than just "hurdur lane bully AoE magic damage"

16 Comments

coppinslingerDec 13, 20143 votes

3 empowered abilities + extra health and AoE damage? I think that might be a bit overpowered. Especially if the fight lasted long enough for the second round of CDs.

KingsgraveDec 13, 20141 votes

{quoted} 3 empowered abilities + extra health and AoE damage? I think that might be a bit overpowered. Especially if the fight lasted long enough for the second round of CDs.

He might actually be useful again. I doubt this would make him broken.

coppinslingerDec 14, 20141 votes

Possibly balanced in the late game, but in the early-mid, I think it would be much too strong @.@

not a starburstDec 14, 20143 votes

It would break him badly. He gets all his empowered abilities off for free *on top of * his ultimate's bonus health shred. Twice, because the stun and the double dash would almost certainly let him chase the unfortunate enemy.

KingsgraveDec 14, 20141 votes

[{quoted}](name=Abyssal Plunge,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ozglY5nk,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2014-12-14T00:20:46.926+0000) It would break him badly. He gets all his empowered abilities off for free *on top of * his ultimate's bonus health shred. Twice, because the stun and the double dash would almost certainly let him chase the unfortunate enemy.

Make the internal cooldown for Empowered Abilities something like 16/14/12 and have it scale with rank of his ultimate? Possibly lower the duration of his ultimate to 10 seconds from 15 as well?

Make it really feel like "Dominus" and give him a much more powerful albeit smaller window to Dominate

FalconPawwwwnchDec 13, 20141 votes

Or maybe give him his old ultimate numbers back

KingsgraveDec 14, 20141 votes

{quoted} Or maybe give him his old ultimate numbers back

Im focusing on making Renekton better overall, not just buffing his lane phase.

XarovDec 13, 20141 votes

Do you really want Renekton to be OP again? Also he's not bad at all, just don't use him against range champions top lane.

KingsgraveDec 14, 20141 votes

{quoted} Do you really want Renekton to be OP again? Also he's not bad at all, just don't use him against range champions top lane.

Im not focusing at all on his laning ability or presence. Im fine with him having a weaker time but his ultimate is called "Dominus" and right its "suckinus" at all stages of the game.

Kuroi86Dec 14, 20141 votes

Or just make it so his W doesn't self CC him and actually gives him a useful CC tool that he can use to win trades before getting Tiamat.

PatMcGroynDec 14, 20141 votes

{quoted} Or just make it so his W doesn't self CC him and actually gives him a useful CC tool that he can use to win trades before getting Tiamat.

It is useful CC and DOES help him win trades. If the animation were any shorter, it would be ridiculously OP.

Kuroi86Dec 14, 20141 votes

Thanks to Renekton' damage output. It really doesn't do anything other than set up for other members of your team to follow up CC.

PatMcGroynDec 14, 20141 votes

That would be ridiculously op. Renekton is already in a good spot right now, he does what he does well. Giving him full fury for 15 seconds would be crazy, he's already very strong with his base values, and Dominus already gives you such a huge power spike in the first place.

Renekton's problem isn't that he doesn't do enough damage during his ult (he does), it's that he exists in a game that is increasingly harder and harder to exist in as a melee bruiser. Every new champ has more mobility, more CC (and especially more knockups/ knockbacks, which can't be mitigated by tenacity), more % max health damage. Renek is a top of the food chain bruiser, but he's clearly most dominant in the early game, and especially against fellow bruisers; unfortunately for Renek, ranged tops that can easily kite him and easily farm the lane are very prevalent right now. And there's just no real reason to play Renek into a lane you can't dominate. There are better champs to pick into a farm lane.

TheI3igDaddyDec 14, 20142 votes

Bro did you even read the OP; he said that to compensate for this buff, the duration of Dominus would go to 10 secs from 15.

RebonackDec 14, 20141 votes

Random thought: How broken would Ren be if he ran of Ferocity instead of Fury?

Serpents EmbraceDec 14, 20141 votes

It doesn't really matter if it makes him better or worse since it would tread on another champion's uniqueness.

(Although, that doesn't seem to matter anymore. Riot was more than happy to let Stashu shove Cassiopeia all up in the evolving champion's business in a way that doesn't thematically make any sense - so shoving Renekton up in to Rengar's business probably wouldn't phase them.)