when it's obvious that you're going to lose. stop that shit. seriously some of us just want to move onto a game that isn't a severe ass kicking.
we should be able to drop normals without having to wait for them to end if someone dcs.
Reynard the ƒox2 votesFor me, it depends. If the person DC's for no discernible reason, I assume it's a network issue, and that they're trying their best to get back in the game. If a person is raging and flaming and then DC's, then yeah I assume they're not coming back and try to /ff.
The Bard Dog1 votes[{quoted}](name=a god damn hero,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ozfcAAEQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-02-08T03:16:26.109+0000)
For me, it depends. If the person DC's for no discernible reason, I assume it's a network issue, and that they're trying their best to get back in the game. If a person is raging and flaming and then DC's, then yeah I assume they're not coming back and try to /ff.
the guy had been dced since level 8, and we lost 2 inhibs when i tried to surrender. both times denied. forget that i just alt f4ed out.
the Anarchit3cht2 votesThen you're just as bad as the guy who DC'd in the first place. There is a reason they have a SURRENDER vote. Just because someone won't surrender doesn't mean you can just go AFK.
mvargus1 votes[{quoted}](name=the Anarchit3cht,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ozfcAAEQ,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-02-08T03:53:59.747+0000)
Then you're just as bad as the guy who DC'd in the first place. There is a reason they have a SURRENDER vote. Just because someone won't surrender doesn't mean you can just go AFK.
I can't defend the OP, since I agree he shouldn't go AFK. HOWEVER, it sounds like it was a 4v5 and the fight was already effectively over. However, one thing that LoL/Riot doesn't have is a way to end fights like this quickly unless the losing team agrees to surrender or the team in the lead decides to push forward and end it. Both don't happen all that often.
What you end up with is people like the OP who know the fight isn't winnable, but who can't leave until the fight ends. He tried according to his post on 2 occasions to surrender, but other players on his side insisted on fighting to the end. At this point you have a problem. One player wants out, he's done, and in this case with an AFK you have 2 missing. But the system is saying "just because 2 players won't surrender, you have to stay in this depressing game until the other team grants you mercy by pushing through and winning." And if the 2 players still fighting are good enough, that can take 10 minutes or more of frantic but ultimately useless defense of the Nexus.
In that situation, what is right would have been for the ones voting against surrender to have accepted it.
The only solution I can think of would be an extremely public announcement that in any situation where a player is AFK/disconnected and a surrender vote is taken after 1 or more inhibitor is down and the other side has its inhibitors up the accumulation of IP and XP for the losing side stops immediately and they get no additional XP/IP for continuing to fight. They don't lose any, but they can't gain more just for extending the match, like they do now.
It might get a few more people to be willing to surrender once the fight reaches a certain stage.
Unlucky Number72 votesi don't know. I've had some of my best games when one of my teammates disconnected. There's almost no better feeling then winning a 4v5 in a ranked game during your promotional. too bad i lost that series but the game was still good.
mvargus1 votes[{quoted}](name=Unlucky Number7,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ozfcAAEQ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-02-08T03:52:50.933+0000)
i don't know. I've had some of my best games when one of my teammates disconnected. There's almost no better feeling then winning a 4v5 in a ranked game during your promotional. too bad i lost that series but the game was still good.
I should note that the OP says clearly that this was a "normal" match so it had no effect on the rankings.
And I have also had one 4v5 that my team pulled out of a hat and won. It was a great feeling, however, that was one time out of 20 that my team was able to overcome being a man down. LoL is a team game and being down a person almost always means someone has to fight in a lane they aren't accustomed to. It can be extremely frustrating especially once/if the fight starts to snowball. At that point it is a bit unfair to force one player to keep fighting because 2 of the others are unwilling to accept a surrender.
TraakSC1 votessurrendering is a cowards way out. i never surrender.
mvargus1 votessurrendering is a cowards way out. i never surrender.
If you always fight for death or glory eventually there will only be the dead.
There is an old truism that discretion is the better part of valor. I've seen too many fights go on long after they were nothing more than beatdowns because of people like you who refuse to man up and admit that they have lost.
There is no dishonor in surrendering when your team is too far behind to come back. And in a team game like LoL refusing to surrender because of some childish need to fight to the end is selfish in the extreme. You are forcing others who might have realized that the fight was over. Have you even considered that fighting forever is a great injustice.
Learn to accept defeat gracefully and be able to say, "We can't win this one and I won't force the others to fight on uselessly. Let's surrender."
Blade100451 votesI can agree with you. There is a point when winning is impossible and the best way is to surrender. 4v5 or 5v5. I had a 4v5 game when we started off with a dc and never connected... the game went on for 72 minutes... a very long loss.
The 5v5 was worse.. 112 minutes... almost 2 hours. We were a mid game comp (corki, irelia and such) and they were late game (kass, and their yas come to mind). Both were unwinnable, but I had 2 people on each who had the mindset "Glory in Death!" For the 5v5 I had to leave due to class (I had an hour and a half, I never would have imagined the game would take that long). I ended up getting leave bustered for it.
It would be nice if there was some condition to end the game or opt out of a game without punishment after X minutes of gameplay. Not everyone can play for 2 hours straight after all.
Blade