Is there a reason people are banning Zac?

Revali··5 votes·898 views

Ive been seeing people request me ( since I'm usually last pick.) to ban him.

and I have no real clue why, is it people are just now realizing that we was sleeper for a long time now?

thank you for any info on this confusing bit for me.

21 Comments

PapaGreg215 votes

Zac is stronger than other junglers right now and can gank well fairly early. I think it is more that all of the other junglers have been nerfed so that he has kind of risen to the top.

Requiemsfire4 votes

Because he's really strong and his counters or alternatives have been nerfed.

Spoofghoul3 votes

hes one of the few good tanks in this meta

Meep Man3 votes

Because people are sheep

ProfDrDeath3 votes

Zac hasn't been seen any kind of significance for a long time. As a result, people forgot that playing against him is a bit different, and thus lose to him more often.

Not wanting to put in the required thought, they'd rather ban him.

Tyrone Lannister2 votes

He deals a lot of dmg as a tank. Also he can dive well

Revali2 votes

He's always been able to do that, though.

is it because he's pretty good in the current meta?

Daklore3 votes

It's probably more because Meteos brought him back to light in the LCS recently, so people are like, "Oh right, this guy still exists. Holy crap, this guy is OP." or something. I feel like there are better bans in general, but Zac isn't necessarily a bad ban. He's just not popular enough to warrant it... yet. (in my opinion)

Lovelle2 votes

I can't speak for Zac on SR, but he's a top tier godstomp jungler on 3v3. Can kill squishes by himself, while building full tank. This wouldn't be an issue if he didn't have Gragas tier ganks and mobility. As an opposing jungler, it's hard to gank anywhere, because Zac can be there to counter gank you almost immediately.

He punishes even the slightest mistakes and can easily snowball a game. He's in nearly every game in 3v3 normals, so he must be decent on SR. I've even seen him go AP and end games like a fed Lee.

Great Muta2 votes

Zac is a pain. He's got endless dives and has huge HP plus his passive.

WoonStruck3 votes

And you can invalidate his presense in the game if you have any form of displacement.

Bonus points if you have mobility.

Zac is strong against comps that lack a way to deny his E. Otherwise, he's basically dead weight.

GaleWinUnleashed1 votes

Depends on the skill level. E still works fine <Plat.

Astôlfo2 votes

Probably some LCS/pro-event player picked Zac and now everyone else thinks Zac is supposedly broken freelo. Except he's just always been an okayish/decent pick like usual, like he has been for the past few months. People whine and exaggerate too much.

exiledFromBadmen2 votes

Because Gragas is Sejuani'd and people want a tank jungler.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

he can gank. and you cannot put enough vision to know. he can gank from his raptors.

Papa Slothy1 votes

his early ganking is really strong, I like to think of him as a full tank lee sin

GaleWinUnleashed1 votes

He's been just fine for quite a while. Still is, by the way.

It's just that he's recently been dragged kicking and screaming back into the spotlight by pro players (Meteos?).

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Just so sheep can be forced to play something else and actually use their brains instead of blind picking Zac and expecting a free win because "hurr durr hes stronk".

Another fun fact, these guys tend to flame at their teammates despite kill stealing from teammates that actually need kills more than Zac does.

WoonStruck1 votes

Many of the high MMR Zac mains play him full AP. If you're doing that, taking the kills is fine. You basically win if you can engage successfully.

That said, what you're saying is definitely valid. Lee sin of this Era.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

We should also add that Zac can get Liandry's as his only "AP item" and still shred 3 people all at once with the combination of Sunfire Cape.

You don't have to go full AP as Zac to deal tons of damage, if anything.

WoonStruck1 votes

True.

Most will settle foritem 3151 item 3116 item 3001 item 3068 item 3065 item 3020.

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