When it's a tank meta, why does no one play Trundle?

Revali·12/22/2017, 2:33:57 PM·15 votes·4,941 views

when you see stuff like Rammus Sejuani Maokai Leona and others who are coming into meta I believe

you have one of the best ways to deal with 3/4 of the mentioned steroids (aftershock included too)

I guess it's because hes more setup then actual.. juggernaut style of play I guess.

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BobaFlautist12/22/2017, 2:53:04 PM30 votes

Trundle is strongest against one tank teams, because he shreds their stats, his team kills hem, and then he's unstoppable.

Tank metas usually involve 2-3 tanks per team, he ults one, and the other one locks him down and peeps him until the ult wears off - his kit doesn't accomplish much if he isn't allowed to hit people.

Eedat12/22/2017, 2:47:25 PM21 votes

Because they made item 3076 which shits on him pretty hard.

Jinx Hunter12/22/2017, 3:35:52 PM18 votes

Because no one likes a Troll [sg-ezreal]

Tychusfindlay91812/22/2017, 3:14:38 PM15 votes

Bramble fucks a lot of trundle's sustain early on and makes him a really hard pick to make work.

Sasogwa12/22/2017, 4:18:11 PM12 votes

Because it's a marksman meta, not a tank meta. The tanks are only there because they work best with adc's and have decent laning. Trundle does not solve the real problem (the marskman).

But to a certain extent, I'd say he's still viable/good. Just because he can steal the tanks stats so his own marksman kills enemy frontline faster is always good. And his pillar is somewhat decent CC

AirKingNeo12/22/2017, 5:30:59 PM6 votes

What possible thing could Riot done to make EVERY ANTI-TANK TOP LANER completely shit?

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Pandemic Punch12/22/2017, 4:18:58 PM5 votes

Not a tank meta right now. Tanks are good but you don't see tanks in 3 roles on both teams every game.

ZT Xperimentor12/22/2017, 3:54:08 PM4 votes
FireDrizzle12/22/2017, 3:48:14 PM4 votes

They took away fervor.

Troll for Trump12/23/2017, 8:51:23 AM2 votes

Lots of reasons: Dmg has also been "creeped" in some ways Way harder for champs like Trundle to kill carries due to mobility creep, increased cc, increased shield/heal Fighters as a whole kinda got shafted in the pre-season Prevalence of ranged/bullies makes it a pain for him to lane

Idk about support Trundle, no idea why it was good in the first place

nachocheeseeeee12/22/2017, 10:03:05 PM2 votes

Because Trundle can only shred one tank at a time. Meanwhile, champs like Darius, who always build item 3071, can apply AOE armor shred to multiple tanks, while healing just as much due to the nature of his heal. Add that with his built in armor shred and true damage ult to execute a tanks. Trundle is excellent at destroying tanks, but one at time, and he excels at dueling melee champs.

zenkai451112/22/2017, 2:44:46 PM2 votes

I've asked this question before, and i'm in low elo ( Bronze 1 ) and I've always been curious why I don't see him in higher elo play against this "tank meta".

doubleguac12/23/2017, 7:18:25 PM1 votes

Trundle lanes well against tanks, but he's still very susceptible to kiting and CC comps after the laning phase ends.

Personally, I just find him kind of frustrating to play. His E and ult are both very powerful, but the rest of his kit is so easy to play around.

I always feel like complete dead weight in team fights. Even most of the other split pushers (trynd, nasus, yorick) feel more impactful in team fights than trundle.

He's one of those old school bruisers. He's insanely strong at just slugging it out with people, but he can't force an engage, and no one is dumb enough anymore to try to fight trundle through his ult. So you get stuck split pushing and shredding stats.

Madsin2512/22/2017, 5:08:34 PM1 votes

I climbed to gold with trundle right before bramble came out.

It is a night and day difference with that item in the game. Especially if your lane opponent is smart enough to rush it.

Rainfall12/22/2017, 6:32:49 PM1 votes

bramble vest castrated trundle

RankOneUganda12/22/2017, 9:10:19 PM1 votes

two words. grevious wounds. and no its not the bramble vest.he can splitpush take towers when tanks stand

he just cannot team fight at all. adc's doo too much damage in all honestly and even trundle ulting a malphite can't tank their damage

Drugoth12/22/2017, 9:56:58 PM1 votes

Trundles kit is kind of... boring to me though.

My Waifu Vanilla12/22/2017, 10:15:04 PM1 votes

Trundle W would need to give Tenacity again for him to be a relatively viable pick. Sure he can ult their maokai, ornn, or zac or whatever but during that time he is going to be chain CC'ed any way and die to the enemy ADC before he can actually "do" something since he is a juggernaut and has very little ways to choose a target to hit besides whatever is in front of him. Also, Trundle does best in the top lane (his ganks are fairly garbage) or support if he is overtuned, but currently he can't compete with Leona/Alistar down bottom and also can't really trade well with the current "top lane tanks" since they are all magic damage based and most of Trundle's trading potential comes from the massive statcheck that his Q provides (60 AD difference at level 9 which the likes of Ornn and Maokai couldn't care about at all).

Yaskamasandwich12/23/2017, 1:41:57 AM1 votes

Also because Trundle is a split pusher and split pushers not named Yorick are in a tight spot right now.

TotalJerk12/23/2017, 4:09:10 AM1 votes

Trundle does not counter tanks, he counters tank. Singular. If they have 3 tanks on their team and you ult one, they still have two tanks to hold the frontline while the one you ulted backs off and waits out Trundle's ult.

Mos Deadly9812/23/2017, 5:19:11 AM1 votes

Hearthstone. The reason why trundle doesnt work is hearthstone. how so? Whenever a card in hearthstone is great at countering one thing but isnt good on its own, its trash. This means it doesnt matter that trundle can counter tanks, hes trash.

General Esdeath 12/23/2017, 6:34:14 AM1 votes

Brand Singed Swain Rumble Vayne Trundle Urgot are great vs tanks but without fervor of battle it's way harder for some of them =/

KillerCryptid12/23/2017, 12:31:26 PM1 votes

idk why no one plays him but also thank god cause he wrecked me last time I played against him, he is really strong tbh

Shrek Luigi12/23/2017, 3:53:50 PM1 votes

He just scales off really hard into the latter-half of a match.

He's still really good when the matchup favors him, against someone like Sion or Riven where interrupting their engage with pillar can mess them up severely, and has the potential to snowball like crazy. It's really hard to get full-mileage out of that snowball, though, since he doesn't have the damage or durability that many other toplaners have.