Yasuo And The Whole 100% Crit Lie

boss10000··1 votes·852 views

FIRSTLY before anyone brings up the whole 2 items = 100% crit argument, can I point out that that takes 3400 gold, and means he has about lets be nice 90 AD, so with crit this is 180 but then lets apply the 90% effect reduction from passive so 162 damaeg, then there's the 25% reduction for Q sot that does 157.5 (plus 20 base) so 175.5 damage damage, now if we look for 3400 gold you could buy Youmuu's Ghostblade or for 100 gold more deaths dance

YM = 65AD, 10 CDR, 20 Armour Pen, 20% MS and 40% AS DD = 75 AD, 10 cdr, 15% heal, 15% damage reduction thing

So for the same or similar gold you could buy 65 or 75 AD which gives you extra stats aswell and for your AA you would deal 155 damaeg (not reduction form crit) and Q does 175 on Q, this is from YM.

So really for the amount of crit he is buying he is getting less useful AD and then misses out of other more useful stats like CDR (i know not good on him but example), armour pen increasing YM damage even more, then 20% MS and 40% AS active.

So honestly the 100% from 2 items which would require full zeal based item and and IE which is 2600 + 3600 = 6200 gold, this then gives you the same formula as before except + 65 damaeg so lets say 150 AD then lets do the calculation again

AA = 225% crit now (cause math) so 301 damaeg (151 from crit) Q = 187.5% so 301.25 - 381.25 (depending on Q rank)

When compared to buying 2 other items worth 6200 gold on other items you could at best get 130-150 AD

In total and AD of 220 - 240 that is 60 less damaeg than a full crit Yasuo, BUT and this is a big BUT most other champions will have better abilities that will deal more damage than Yasuo will example Talon (Q) , Irelia (Q) have an extra 50 and 40 base state on the receptively making the difference really 40-20 damage/

So honestly when you say that he can get 100% crit so easily, remember that the actual damaeg difference from building crit to build AD is about ~50 damaeg which when you compare that Yasuo has so many weak damaeg abilities in his kit W does no damage, E does max 225 (unless you build AP but who does that on Yasuo?)

So really his entire kit is mainly utility at that point, so yeah, before you jump on the whole broken crit think about this.

11 Comments

J Eevo4 votes

If rushing 100% crit chance was subpar, PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE DOING IT. You skipped IE amplification passive (which is not a situational burst since Yas does have 100% crit by then but a constant one) and stattik shiv passive, and the fact that he also gets AS from the build AND his Q cd goes down.

boss100001 votes

Thats the second amount of crit stats

THis bit

"So honestly the 100% from 2 items which would require full zeal based item and and IE which is 2600 + 3600 = 6200 gold, this then gives you the same formula as before except + 65 damaeg so lets say 150 AD then lets do the calculation again

AA = 225% crit now (cause math) so 301 damaeg (151 from crit) Q = 187.5% so 301.25 - 381.25 (depending on Q rank)"

J Eevo1 votes

IE damage amp assuming AD = 150

  • AA = 150AD * 225% because crit = 337.5 Damage

  • 100*225%=225 Magic damage If stattik passive is up (because it's affected by both IE and Yasuo's passive) every 5-6 seconds?

Assuming Q has max rank (which it should if you already have 2 items built)

  • Q = [100 Base damage + 150 AD] * 187.5%= 468.75 Damage

Now add to that 35% as from the statikk (assuming he skimped on berserker grieves)

Yosuke Apperu1 votes

You weave auto attacks between Qs. Also you didnt even put stattik shiv anywhere in your math.

boss100001 votes

This is pure damaeg match, you can do the same for for any champion, its meant to prove that the actually damaeg form crit isn't actually that much on Yasuo as what people make it seem like.

Yosuke Apperu1 votes

No you can't lol some q cool downs are like 10 seconds..

Kaioko1 votes

You seem to be forgetting several things in your math - one being the shiv passive which increases his burst damage but also the thing that really bugs me is that you forgot that his Q's cd which 1 vs 1 is his only source of knockup for his ultimate is reduced by attack speed. Having shiv means that by level 14-15 you can essentially have the maximum reduced CD on your Q and easily spam it as you weave your autos in between.

boss100001 votes

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You seem to be forgetting several things in your math - one being the shiv passive which increases his burst damage but also the thing that really bugs me is that you forgot that his Q's cd which 1 vs 1 is his only source of knockup for his ultimate is reduced by attack speed. Having shiv means that by level 14-15 you can essentially have the maximum reduced CD on your Q and easily spam it as you weave your autos in between.

Not everyone builds SS and its only every few AA not all the time i did the math for a base zeal item and yes you can get the extra damaeg from SS but that is an optional choice.

Also the AS from Youmuus would do the same reduction during the active, but it was more meant to be pure damage numbers based.

Kaioko1 votes

Yeah but even not factoring in forgetting the reduced cooldown on his main damage skill is pretty huge. I'm not sure if you remember about a year ago people were getting BTRK fairly early on him as well after shiv instead of going straight to IE mainly because of how great it was to get a reduced CD on it and spam tornadoes (second reason being the sustain of course).

boss100001 votes

yes it does scale with him, but it was doing with 1 hit from a AA and 1 form a Q and looking at the damage, and the AS scaling on him could be considered = to the scaling that other champions get form the CD on YM the AS from SS is = to 20% CD for his Q so its not that big of a difference to the CDR on YM.

Kaioko1 votes

Well I'm not a yasuo main my only advice is if you've found some great method to become op with him go ahead and use it people will catch on later on. I personally did the same thing with Kayle, spellblade, nashor's and runaan last year. People thought my build was weird at first and that playing Kayle was basically trolling but they quickly changed their minds.

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