Like seeing 
or 
Bot side, seeing how they just melt down towers so easily just make me feel sick of the view.
Yes they used to do that before the adc change,but god man they was doing that in solo lane.
But now with bot tower being a weak , adc not a thing early and they get extra help from support in damage over towers it just disgusting to watch.
Killer of Night91 votesThat's why adc take teleport. Now after the teleport nerf, we will see ziggs winrate raising up. I hope they won't nerf him because of that since tower are alredy weak.
ValiantKiller1 votes[{quoted}](name=Killer of Night9,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=owUAUhBG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-14T08:46:52.207+0000)
That's why adc take teleport. Now after the teleport nerf, we will see ziggs winrate raising up. I hope they won't nerf him because of that since tower are alredy weak.
Trust me, they good at nerfing stuff without fixing the main problem, just look at aatrox and wukong.
Summonah123691 votesTry Jinx she can tear down any turret. Not forgetting to mention that destroying one triggers her passive.
ValiantKiller2 votesTry Jinx she can tear down any turret. Not forgetting to mention that destroying one triggers her passive.
But jinx would push hard as them, she won't take tower under 25% hp cause she got skill that can do that, she won't spawn and keep wave under tower cause she got free minis towers. Edit : Not to mention she won't zone you out csing all game by free poking from her mini towers or bombs
saltran2 votesJinx or Trist can melt turrets but they both lack the lane preassure that Heimer/Ziggs have to push since the start and take down the botlane turret that doesn't have early game protections on contrast to Midlane/Toplane Heimer or Ziggs.
ValiantKiller1 votesJinx or Trist can melt turrets but they both lack the lane preassure that Heimer/Ziggs have to push since the start and take down the botlane turret that doesn't have early game protections on contrast to Midlane/Toplane Heimer or Ziggs.
^
And add to that they can't just make a nice wave clear or keep wave under tower for longer time since they neither have good wave clear before 
neither have a mini towers to spawn top eat tower aggro.
heroikc1 votesBlame mana changes, assassins and gold funneling with forcing them to bot lane.
ValiantKiller1 votesBlame mana changes, assassins and gold funneling with forcing them to bot lane.
Yes blame assassin more please -.- and mana change, wait a second hemi doesn't even consume much mana like other mages and ziggs just need passive and his w only to take tower down.
heroikc1 votesYes blame assassin more please -.- and mana change, wait a second hemi doesn't even consume much mana like other mages and ziggs just need passive and his w only to take tower down.
It's not the mana itself that's the issue, but the upped mana item costs. And why would mages go bot but because mid no longer supports them? [slayer-jinx-unamused]
ValiantKiller1 votesIt's not the mana itself that's the issue, but the upped mana item costs. And why would mages go bot but because mid no longer supports them? [slayer-jinx-unamused]
Cause it easier to harsh down adc cause they are weak ? maybe cause of that ? Last year hemi used to be in top lane cause he able to harsh melee, your logic of assassin in mid or mana change is the reason won't fit last year when he was top ? right ?