how is graves now? (poll)

The fact that they're even considering upping Quinn to 550, and have already made leaps and bounds to reduce the power of the original BT-rush ADs and buffing the 650+ rangers with the IE change really suggests Graves should just be 550 range straight up.

Graves is horribly outclassed by Lucian.

This will not change anytime soon because "MUH RACISM"

do bumps work on boards

why you bumping after just 4 minutes.

his price on his E should start at 40 then go down to 25. That's my only dislike. Also, the passive on E, can't it work on turrents too?

I think he's in an ok spot. He has a short range, but some great burst damage (always get caught off guard.)

I think he's pretty good. Not OP by any means, but his burst combos great with aggressive supports.

He's a good counter to Lucian, and he's on the balanced/strong side imo. He has a lot of burst damage and nice aoe ult.

Super fun to play imo as well.

Graves is fine. He just doesn't scale well into late game. It not bad, because his mid game is really strong, the only ADC in the game that can burst someone down like an assassin. His main "flaw" is that since he is a mid game champion, if he falls behind in lane, he basically has lost. He either bully's lane because he is ahead or he is bullied himself in lane because he is behind, which is why people aren't as drawn to him anymore.