Is it possible to rework Illaoi's E and R slightly?

Pyrithegethon·Apr 24, 2018·16 votes·5,834 views

To make her less reliant on one combo?

The reason I ask is because her E+R combo is extremely frustrating for Illaoi and her enemies. One of 2 scenarios will occur, she lands E and ults giving her a huge advantage in more tentacles, a guaranteed slam on ult going off, and the damage amp(hitting both spirit and champion at the same time.. Or Illaoi misses E and ults putting her at a huge disadvantage with less tentacles, no guaranteed slam, and no damage amp via spirit.

Maybe nerfing her E damage by a bit but does not cause a slam from her ult and having her ult spawn a set amount of tentacles that auto slam a champion on cast?

Idk, I just don't like how reliant her E+R is. Hit it and you win. Miss it and you lose.

Thoughts?

28 Comments

webstar1108Apr 24, 20189 votes

Yep. This is her dilemma. This is why she is seldom played in high elo and never played in pros. She misses one thing and shes useless. If she ults all you have to do is cc her and walk away. Sad really.

Big LincolnApr 24, 20183 votes

no, land your spells

webstar1108Apr 24, 20182 votes

She is not played at higher elo and pro because even if you do get hit all you gotta do is cc her and walk away. Then you get 10 gold from the two tentacles if you're even cursed. So you miss a couple farm, lose very little hp, and get 10 gold back from the 2 cs you missed. Also it is not hard to dodge her 'skill shots' they are slow.

Big LincolnApr 24, 20183 votes

they're slow because they're strong as fuck. E is one the best spells in the game and Q hits for tons and heals her

illaoi gets 25 gold for spirit kills and letting tentacles spawn just means you're giving her more room to nest in.

land your skillshots and stop complaining.

webstar1108Apr 24, 20184 votes

I am not complaining at all. i am stating she is weak because she is. I love laning against her it is very easy. Sidesteps and poke wreck her

Big LincolnApr 24, 20183 votes

52% winrate in plat and higher isn't a weak champ

webstar1108Apr 24, 20182 votes

Plat is not high elo.

Big LincolnApr 24, 20183 votes

and higher

what rank are you btw

webstar1108Apr 24, 20184 votes

I am only Silver as of now but that does not matter. The people on the balance team are not ranked high either. They use stats and other factual information just like i have. If you are trying to point out that you are a higher rank than me and that means you are right that is invalid. It's like calling someone 'kid' and not listening anymore becasue you dont know what to say.

Sexy Jack RabbitApr 25, 20183 votes

Dude it's Big Lincoln, dw about him.

Just another Boards Riot Hate Bandwagonner

Big LincolnApr 25, 20182 votes

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Sexy Jack RabbitApr 25, 20182 votes

And flinging insults doesn't make for a respected opinion lmao.

It's always hilarious you attack other people's arguments when you never make any yourself.

You just fling insults and state your bias opinions.

Big LincolnApr 25, 20182 votes

"Just another Boards Riot Hate Bandwagoner"

pot calling the kettle black

Sexy Jack RabbitApr 25, 20182 votes

It was a reference to another post buddy :')

Big LincolnApr 25, 20181 votes

you just shit out a handful of context-free numbers and think it makes an argument. lmao

webstar1108Apr 24, 20182 votes

50.58% in patch 8.8 so far. She has a low play rate though. She also has one of the worst avg KPA's among the 48 tops

ZtokaApr 24, 20183 votes

Q is so easy to dodge.. Especially while laning. I like to max e first as it isn't as easy as Q to dodge. Later w/ teamfights and things getting chaotic it is a bit harder to see/dodge.. But 1v1 in lane, q wind up animation is alone enough time to get out of the way (unless creeps have you blocked in). Off topic but Heimerdinger is so much fun to abuse Illaoi with.. She goes to q, gets ani locked and you e her followed w/ w and chunk a ton of her hp.. Poor Illaoi so feast or famine..

Big LincolnApr 24, 20182 votes

i don't care what you do. illaoi's fine, stop being bad at her and you'll realize it pretty quick

webstar1108Apr 25, 20182 votes

Dude. Shut the hell up. "git gud"

Big LincolnApr 25, 20181 votes

"wah illaoi is so bad because she has skillshots. get good dude"

lol

webstar1108Apr 25, 20181 votes

No one ever said that. Her skill shots are very easy to dodge. Xerath and Ziggs are all skill shots but much quicker. Illaoi us clunky.

Big LincolnApr 25, 20181 votes

and they pop like a grape when you get on them

Meanwhile illaoi is one of the best if not the best anti divers in the game

ModPeriscopeApr 26, 20181 votes

Just a friendly reminder to everyone to not insult others on the Boards. We can disagree, but please do so in a civil manner.

CraazyfaceApr 24, 20182 votes

Is an interesting concept. As someone who plays a ton of Illaoi the most interesting part would be the initial "free" slam. That slam I get from E is usually the deciding factor in my fights. Would be cool if they did something with it.

Cosmic LuxApr 24, 20181 votes

I’m not sure how I feel about “rewarding” a champion for missing one of their most crucial abilities in a fight...

I think the problem with Illaoi actually is how you need to play defensive outside of lane, only fighting where you have tentacles.

But a champion should have its strengths and weaknesses as well.

webstar1108Apr 25, 20181 votes

Yea she's is bad out of lane unless you get a 5 man ult in a team fight.

Meep ManApr 25, 20181 votes

I think what Illaoi actually needs late game is a way to more quickly set up tentacles outside of her ultimate. She becomes a walking ultimate late game.

VelvetCrotchApr 25, 20181 votes

i think her E is too hard to hit for an ability she so hardly is in need. everytime i play illaoi at least one tells me that she is so easy to play. NO, she isnt. Not only she is kiteable, her main source of dmg are skillshots (Q and E), imo they could increase the CD of her E, but make either the hitbox bigger or let it go through minions. the dmg shouldnt be touched. her ult should have a bigger aoe. that she has more utility and isnt so much in need of her E. the ult could also slow by 20% over 2 sec OR her W could slow by some amount cause her W CD is already reduced during her ult.

but you are right, she needs more possibilities to fight, she is NOT easy, but very straight forward.