Remove Void Staff and Last Whisper, reduce resist values on items by 20%

FalconPawwwwnch·Jan 9, 2015·7 votes·563 views

Fixed

Tanks actually have a late game now but aren't so oppressive before champs get LW/VS

Smoother curve basically

10 Comments

AtheosisXJan 9, 20153 votes

Meanwhile you are dumbing down the game by removing meaningful choices. How about instead we just nerf LW and VS to the point that they are only gold efficient against people who build tanky?

Done25Jan 9, 20151 votes

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Meanwhile you are dumbing down the game by removing meaningful choices. How about instead we just nerf LW and VS to the point that they are only gold efficient against people who build tanky?

Because the Marskman can easily afford the cheap cost of LW. So long as LW exists they will build it. Every time you buff it against defence stackers, people like Amumu and Mundo become that much less useful. And we end up with the Leauge of Zed and Fizz ignoring huge chunks.of your 200 armor/mr.

BlastermineJan 10, 20151 votes

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Meanwhile you are dumbing down the game by removing meaningful choices. How about instead we just nerf LW and VS to the point that they are only gold efficient against people who build tanky?

item 3035 item 3135 meaningful choice?

Are there people out there who don't build %pen 2nd or 3rd item on carries? The "meaningful choices" for those two items is called champion select.

AtheosisXJan 10, 20151 votes

Which is why I said they should be nerfed to the point that they are only gold efficient against people who build tanky.

RebonackJan 11, 20151 votes

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Which is why I said they should be nerfed to the point that they are only gold efficient against people who build tanky.

That wouldn't help.

All it would do is encourage people even more so to build nothing but HP and ignore mitigation. Assuming we were looking at 50% bonus resist pen, then people would want to grab 3000 HP for every 100 resist they have beyond the base amount. So basically build Ninja Tabbi and then straight HP.

AtheosisXJan 11, 20151 votes

Why are you assuming that would be the nerf? When I say make it less gold efficient against non-tanks I'm actually thinking of a significant price increase. Right now they are gold efficient with virtually any amount of mitigation, but it is more gold efficient with higher mitigation values. If you increase the price of those items then the window of gold efficiency shrinks.

RebonackJan 9, 20151 votes

Why are people downvoting this? It would fix the issue.

Right now if you buy resist you're immortal if your foe has no LW/Void and a wet paper bag if they do. Removing %Pen and making resist values sane would help address the issue.

KhristophorosJan 10, 20151 votes

Yes plz.

SlackerboyTCJan 11, 20151 votes

What meaningful choice is there to begin with in this game? There are only 1 or 2 items at most that fill what you need on a champion and the rest of those items are just utter garbage on your champ