You know, at first, I thought Camille was broken.

Niyumi·Dec 19, 2016·3 votes·1,050 views

But, now that people are seeing her more and more, and figuring out her counterplay, I'm not carrying super hardcore when I play her anymore. Sure I can get fed and carry, but I have to actually work for it now, and a lot of people beat me in lane if I don't play it perfectly.

She's strong, but not broken. A pain to play against for sure, but she does have weaknesses and counterplay. She's also super fun. :P

So, even though you do a lot of bullshit, thanks for two super fun champs in a row, Riot. ^^ Ivern and now Camille are two of my favorite champs.

9 Comments

Ark SorcererDec 19, 20163 votes

Mind informing us of this counter play? Because I do not know of this, maybe because I have not faced her in lane.

Brutalitops01Dec 19, 20161 votes

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Mind informing us of this counter play? Because I do not know of this, maybe because I have not faced her in lane.

If you stun her while she's pulling herself to a wall with E or once she's on the wall, the dash cancels and goes on cooldown. For stunning her while she's pulling herself to the wall, you have to time it right. If the lines from her E are still flying to the wall, she'll still dash to it. Once they're attached and pulling is when you can stop it.

Also, Fiora can counter her pretty hard, since her stun is very telegraphed for Fiora to return it and her ultimate makes her not care about being stuck in Camille's.

Jax is also a pretty good counter since he can jump on her and stun her or, after she engages, can use Counter Strike to make sure all her damage misses.

Ark SorcererDec 20, 20161 votes

Wouldn't Poppy be good against her as well? Use her w to stop her dash-- which is magic damage and not physical damage-- she can e her into a wall since Camille has to wall in order to use her ability, and her ult can be destroyed with Poppy be her rushing her out, e again, or Ult.

NiyumiDec 19, 20161 votes

Anyone who is somewhat tanky and all-ins stronger than her: Chogath Darius DrMundo Garen Graves Illaoi Irelia Kled Mordekaiser Nautilus Pantheon Poppy Trundle Yorick

Anyone who has some form of CC and damage: Darius DrMundo Garen Irelia Pantheon Renekton Riven

Anyone with a lot of ranged harass: Heimerdinger Kennen Mordekaiser Pantheon Swain Teemo Vladimir

Anyone who can outplay her: Ekko Fiora Irelia LeeSin Kennen Riven Vladimir

All you really gotta do is interrupt her timings (1.5s on second Q, CC her before it, no damage), avoid her telegraphed abilities (W and E), or just brute force through her kit. If you can poke her and sustain through her poke, you can also beat her pretty easily.

CC also destroys her, so if you have a lot of it, she can't do anything.

MissingKayoDec 19, 20162 votes

Oh my god, it's almost like a new champion takes time to learn the correct ways of playing against them? Just kidding, they're broken!!!!1111!1!1!11!1!

Leo1024Dec 19, 20162 votes

Yeah i remember people saying Kled was broken as hell too, Camille is still super strong and could use a minor tweak but she's very strong, she's basically Darius with mobility, tanky, stupid damage, tanky, and true damage up the ass

TormentulaDec 19, 20161 votes

A rioter deleted their comment?

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Anyway, yea I agree she's more tolerable now and the whole "OP please gut her" threads are a bit over dramatic....

But she's still overtuned IMO. As somebody who played camille to level 4 already, I feel like camille is another riven / yasuo scenario, its more about the camille player fucking up than you outplaying her. I can't say I've ever lost lane with camille unless I royally fucked up harder than a first time kalista in ranked, its so safe to just spam W in lane to heal when an "experimental trade" goes wrong, and to do a hard engage and disengage easily. Its not like irelia where I can take additional poke damage trying to heal, or can at least flash away from her after Q and outtrade without her escaping, camille can heal / farm at a range, freeze under tower, and do a hard engage and then a disengage with her E's low CD. Punishing a camille in a 1v1 lane is easier said on paper.

For example, camille can ultimate and dodge a vital ability you used, and you can't outplay that, she either has to fuck up and not use it or mistime it, or you have to be a god at baiting.. but chances are you're dead by then if she didn't already use it. This would be similar to trying to bait a yasuo windwall as a syndra before ulting, its not that easy and there isn't a cookie cutter method of reading it, just gotta hope he fucks up and uses it early or never.