So now Stinger only builds into AP

Boomerangbro··4 votes·660 views

Good freaking job! You just completely removed a whole AD buildpath with just an item change. Not to mention it only builds into 1 item now. Also, what am I supposed to do with my Aatrox. I need Attack Speed and CDR.

What I suggest, is keep the AD buildpath from Stinger and keep Zephyr. Remove the tenacity and replace it with a new passive. Boom AD buildpath saved.

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Eedat4 votes

You just completely removed a whole AD buildpath

You just completely removed a whole AD buildpath a single inefficient AD item that nobody ever built

7ha7guy7772 votes

Lategame boot replacement for ADCs

Eedat1 votes

yeah for the 1/50 games that this point is reached......K

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

I'm pretty sure similar to other items that have been removed, nobody buys Zephyr a lot in the past.

Boomerangbro2 votes

My point is for it to be changed, not to be completely removed. Removing it is the easy way around the solution. If nobody is buying it, figure out why nobody is buying it and make the changes it needs to become viable.

the recurve bow + stinger + energizer was a good idea.

Eedat2 votes

Why does it matter? They just introduced a whole slew of new AD items. Why do they need to hold on to the name and icon for Zephyr if they just remake it into a completely new item anyway?

Rebonack2 votes

Alternatively, some better options for AD/IAS would be nice.

Once the new patch goes live, we'll have Rageblade (that needs to stack), Yomama's (which has IAS on an active), and BotRK which only has 25 AD.

Stinger plus that new 10% CDR warhammer plus Pickaxe, maybe? Give it something akin to Skarner's old Innate. The one that gives cooldown reduction by auto-attacking. It would probably need to work off of remaining cooldown rather than a flat value to prevent it from making low cooldown spells too potent.

ProfDrDeath1 votes

Hypothetically, Zephyr could've become the ultimate item for AS/on-hit based champions.

Have it build out of item 1043 and item 3101. 70% AS, 10% CdR, some on-hit effect (possibly a slight on-hit heal - 10 HP or so?). Maybe with Phantom Hit or as stacking flat MS buff a la Udyr as a passive?

Boomerangbro1 votes

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Hypothetically, Zephyr could've become the ultimate item for AS/on-hit based champions.

Have it build out of item 1043 and item 3101. 70% AS, 10% CdR, some on-hit effect (possibly a slight on-hit heal - 10 HP or so?). Maybe with Phantom Hit or as stacking flat MS buff a la Udyr as a passive?

Why don't we keep it with the same stats, but change the tenacity for an on-hit passive!!!!!

Rebonack1 votes

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Hypothetically, Zephyr could've become the ultimate item for AS/on-hit based champions.

Have it build out of item 1043 and item 3101. 70% AS, 10% CdR, some on-hit effect (possibly a slight on-hit heal - 10 HP or so?). Maybe with Phantom Hit or as stacking flat MS buff a la Udyr as a passive?

No, you're thinking too small.

Make it build out of item 3101 item 1043 and that new IAS/Energize component item that builds into Cannon and Shiv.

100% attack speed or bust!

ProfDrDeath2 votes

Hmm, also a good idea. Although 100% AS might be a notch exaggerated...85% would be ok, too.

Passive: Energize as usual. Passive II: Auto-attacks deal X damage per hit as on-hit. Passive III: If energized, next auto-attack gives you a burst heal based on level and a speed boost for X% MS for a few seconds.

Boomerangbro1 votes

You mean except for: Aatrox Udyr XinZhao Skarner sometimes Irelia and as a finisher for most AD builds.

dunder kill3 votes

I dont know about Aatrox, but nobody builds Zephyr on Xin, Udyr, Irelia, or Skarner except for the 1% of games where you can sell your boots for a 6th item.

Drakylon1 votes

Essence Reaver into Phantom Dancer will give you 40% CDR with a healthy amount of damage, crit, attack speed and even defense. The only issue is that the mana regen portion is completely wasted, but even without it the item's ridiculously good in gold efficiency. Takes a lot longer to build up into though.

Later you can get a Death's Dance to take your sustain

Boomerangbro1 votes

Yes we do have newer options for AD builds, but that doesn't mean they have to remove options that worked.

IcyPepper1 votes

All dem response comments... that weren't properly responding to the comments they wanted to respond to.

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