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Being a solo player with a 4-man premade is the most garbage experience.

Boomerangbro·5/16/2016, 8:08:29 AM·273 votes·11,531 views

As the title suggests, being the only solo player in a 4-man premade team is the most garbage experience I have ever had while playing league. I queue up for ranked to have fun, and then I'm hit with 4 players calling me "trash", "troll", "kys", "report for trash", "get cancer", "die", "uninstall", "your family is retarded", "go afk", "you're probably a retard", "how'd you get out of the mental hospital", "go fall off a building", "report for troll", "Fcker", "idiot", "you play like sht", "you're an a*s", "I hope riot guts your account".

4 FREAKING PLAYERS! Not only that, during all this they are spamming in all-chat to the other team that I deserve to get cancer and rot in hell.

CAN PREMADES NOT BE ALLOWED ANYMORE. I'VE BEEN TOLD TO KILL MYSELF LIKE AT LEAST 20 TIMES TONIGHT.

It started right as I got into the queue. First thing I heard was "hey noob". and it went downhill from there. I tried to get a quick lvl 2 by taking a camp, but all of them flamed me and told the enemy team that I was a troll. I said it was a "viable strategy" but they just told me to "kys".

After 30 minutes of enduring it all I finally broke and said, "Gtfo of ranked you f*ckers! I don't deserve this and you all are the worst people I have ever seen!" "You take your premade and you can all go die for all I care!"

I got my chat-ban because 7 people reported me that game. But it was well worth in my head. Can we just get rid of premades. It makes people snap.

147 Comments

ff4sk5/16/2016, 8:51:08 AM60 votes

Best part is your reports do next to nothing. Dunno how many times I've had premades like that on my team and I've personally learned not to say a word when this happens but the fact they get to tell people to go kill themselves and cuss, troll, and get away with it is disgusting.

I wish Riot would stop beating around the bush and separate queues. if people wanna play dynamic fine, I don't want to play with premades though and I doubt many solo players want to either

Lauchmelder5/16/2016, 12:13:05 PM19 votes

It's totally not like soloplayers can be toxic too. Like that soloplayer that got paired with the 4 man premade and is toxic while the premade is nice. It's scientifically impossible that it could be the soloplayer. Why? Because DynamicQ is a scapegoat for pointless problems.

SSShutTheDuckUp5/16/2016, 9:12:05 AM14 votes

Your mistake was trying to reason with them. You know what they say - if you argue with an idiot he will bring you down at his level and will beat you with experience. If they start behaving like that just answer him "Potato" and mute them. Keep writing "Potato" when you make a decent play or they fail. (I guess I have some experience with idiots). But yes, 4-man premade are the worst. I would dodge the queue if I see this attitude, but then again I only play normals, because I don't want to gamble my rank on "would I get the better premade group or not".

BeMyFriendPlease5/16/2016, 9:30:44 AM12 votes

Versus people like that, troll in a way that cant get you banned. There are many ways to do this... the more they flame, the harder you troll.

Be creative! Riot won't ban them nor will it help if you get banned because the riot white knights will tell you how bad you are for flaming them/being toxic/deserve it. So Troll. Hard. (but in ways that dont involve intent feeding/afk/verbal abuse)

Some tips... flash ult their cs waves. Ping to engage go in then flash out using the "innocent premade" as your shield. Or my personal favorite: afk farm the jungle so you can't be reported for "feeding", theres many many more... and all work splendidly

I know this sounds harsh. But trust me.... other than muting and enjoying the fake reports (often including the enemy team joining in because that's how this community works)... if they truly are unbearable, this is the ONLY way to get them back for sure.

Law of John5/16/2016, 12:40:54 PM6 votes

It doesnt even HAVE to be 4-man who ruin the game, ANY premades actualy ruin the game. Why dont they just make it so you HAVE to que up with 4 other people from the start? That way, people ho play this game for fun can move onto bigger and BETTER games.

Ive had this happen to me more times than I can count. Hell, whats WORSE then being solo with a 4-man? Try being Solo wth TWO sets of dous.

Junsui Aoi5/16/2016, 8:35:34 AM6 votes

I know it SUCKS but you gotta mute em at the start if you see trouble spewing at champ select. Or even dodge if it hurts you that much. 3-4 LP + 5 minutes or 45 minutes of hell. Take a screenshot and report them. I usually find really good sucess that way.

Kinetika5/16/2016, 5:52:26 PM5 votes

Correction: Being a solo JUNGLER paired with a 4 man pre-made is the worst experience ever.

Hardstuck G45/16/2016, 1:30:07 PM5 votes

I've not had a problem with them. And I've only ever experienced one. I've played against 4 man queues without one on my team, and we stomped them. What's the problem http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2183765240/42084383?tab=overview They were friendly, funny, and more than willing to snowball my lane because they saw that I CAN snowball. I'm fine with them

Dantone5/16/2016, 5:30:55 PM5 votes

The problem isn't premades, the problem is toxicity. Yes, it's worse when there are 4 people being toxic, but the problem is ultimately the toxicity.

Premades have been a thing as long as the game has existed (at least in normals). I agree that they don't have a place in ranked (other than 5v5), but how did getting moved over to ranked suddenly make premades the cause of every problem in the game? (Again, I see how it could create SOME problems, just not every single one). Can we stop making these "I spilled my coffee on my keyboard because of premades" threads?

Lastly, you deserved the chat ban. No can make you do anything. If you retaliate against a person, you still retaliated. Even if he hit you first, you still hit back. Even if he hit you 20 times in a row, and his friends came and started hitting you as well, you still hit back.

feverszn5/17/2016, 12:33:08 AM5 votes

I don't know what's worse, having a 4-man premade that degrades you or having a 4-man premade that doesn't talk at all because they're in a Skype group.

Lugg5/17/2016, 12:27:15 AM4 votes

It depends. If I am on a helpful team, it's the greatest experience. If i'm on a troll team, it's worse than garbage.

forresto5/16/2016, 10:43:22 AM4 votes

the other day I had a game where my whole team decided to dc. literally the whole team. they said "let's go play hearthstone." and all 4 went dc simultaneously.

Kei1435/16/2016, 2:27:52 PM4 votes

You do realize that you don't get a chat ban for being reported validly in 1 game.

You also need to realise that people who falsely report you doesn't do anything unless you did something wrong.

and finally, you should have laughed at them and reported them instead.

Chances are, there is much more to this story than a "toxic premade"

chat logs or it didn't happen.

Arshaka Illithid5/16/2016, 5:05:36 PM4 votes

Something a little less extreme than removing premades, is adding another type of ban. When a premade is toxic in-game, they can get banned from playing with each other for a week or a month or so. Probably weighted about equal with a chat ban, maybe a bit harsher.

Numb3rs5/16/2016, 9:09:53 PM3 votes

This exact thing happened to me a while back. i wasnt doing anything at all wrong and they were being so toxic and vile the ENTIRE game towards me. and then at the end of the game all 4 of them said to "report me for being toxic" and the enemy team agreed because majority rules right? so i probably got 5+ reports (when i was obviously the victim) i got a 20 game chat suspension after that. and then the toxic scumbags probably went home free

garbage system

DogshítPlayer5/17/2016, 9:07:41 AM2 votes

At that point I would have went full tyler1 and ran it down mid let that premade lose some lp!

Deathmoretis5/17/2016, 2:03:05 PM2 votes

Being a support main and getting into a game with a duo-queue, trio-queue, or quadra-queue isn't the best time in the world. Many games were I have just lost it like this poor soul here, have been because of queue. It's bad enough I have 1 person yelling at me to kms in solo-queue, but to have more than that is just ridiculous, especially when you have depression.

Nausicäa 5/17/2016, 1:56:09 AM2 votes

The toxicity of premades isnt the only issue. It also makes for some extremely uneven/unfun matches. Very frequently one premade is absolutely awful and the game is a total stomp.

Not to mention other issues such a premade junglers refusing to help the solo at all.

EROTIC RAID BOSS5/16/2016, 8:34:32 PM2 votes

I've never met a premade like this

is anyone else sick of the same 20 people making up these strawmans?

it be lìke that5/17/2016, 3:04:47 PM2 votes

Yeah i had a miserable experience with this the other day, They started flaming me in lobby, saying they hope my family dies in a car crash and other shit like that. I took it with a grain of salt because whatever, but the shit i cant stand, is gamethrowing.

I was playing vi and every time i would gank for one of them, they would control 4 (laugh) and run away, then id die because its a 2v1 and they flame me for feeding, i got pissy and bitched about them throwing and asked the other team to report them, because they were a premade.

Well, i received a 10 game chat restriction for this game for "constantly trash talking and making the game less fun for the neutral players on the team" Along with probably the rudest customer service ive ever received, apparently telling people you want their family to die and gamethrowing = telling people to stop being assholes and wasting 30 minutes of peoples lives with their nonsense.

Eevee In A Jar5/17/2016, 2:46:32 PM2 votes

Yeah it's so stupid. They should just wise up and stop forcing Dyn Q on people. Even if your teammates do well, 4 man premades aren't likely to cooperate with you. They'll straight up ignore you to protect their buttbuddy that's already 0/8 and raging at you for no reason.

Ronan Samurai5/17/2016, 4:11:16 AM2 votes

At least you didn't get permabanned. If I even thought about speaking back to opposing "teammate" I'm done for.