Either a Yasuo, Vayne, Caitlyn or Tryndamere get fed using your stupid snowbally masteries and items and the paper towers fall within the first 8 minutes. We know you like BIG PLAYS, but ending the game in 10 minutes is not my idea of fun.
BluePolarizer63 votesYou misunderstand. The new direction is Candy Crush. Instant gratification for preteens to age 18. Strategy? THINKING? the fuck is that shit?
Boomerangbro38 votesYou misunderstand. The new direction is Candy Crush. Instant gratification for preteens to age 18. Strategy? THINKING? the fuck is that shit?
Yey, Yasuo built an item! Yay! Reward him! Yay, he did something so now he gets to duel anyone he wants and same with Tryndamere! Yay, Fiddle's can now tank towers! Yay, I don't even see anyone besides Yasuo mid or Graves JG now! So much Fun! I love ending in 12 minutes!
A Liberal25 votesWait wait wait... Fiddle can tank towers.
Reaper Soraka1 votesI can only imagine he means they do so little damage that a champion made of twigs and scrap cloth isn't threatened by their presence.
SKT Trash Hour5 votesLol, truth is told in this thread, riot might delete it, watch out. 
MÖRTIMER5 votesI will be sad if that's what they turn league into. The only reason I play League is because it is the only game that requires you to use your brain to win. I seriously don't play any other games because they lack this. (Excluding Darksouls)
Dengeden1 votesI ... you don't know that all of the champs mentioned above have obvious counterplay and you want to use your brain? What?
A Liberal4 votesI've found that Fiddlesticks and Lissandra are great counters to Yasuo in teamfights.
Yi and Zed are good counters to Vayne
Taric and Rammus DESTROY tryndamere when they pick up an early Tabi, Thornmail, or Randiuns
As for Caityln, take someone who can take your adc into range such as Thresh, Leona, Nautilus, or Blitzcrank. Make sure to pick up an early 
to get rid of those pesky traps. As for ADC's against Caitlyn, take someone who relies on getting up and close, and has the tools to do so. People like Tristana and Graves excel against Caitlyn because her kit is designed to be better from far away.
Of course... This is assuming you are playing draft and not TB like 75% of the gaming populaton on LoL
RISE Shlack1232 votesEven then, you list off a best-case scenario where you assume players are going to be able to counter-pick every single time. Assume that Yasuo, Tryn, or Cait are last pick in draft. How can you counter-pick something that isn't picked?
A good workaround is counter-picking the strong champions, sure, but it's not fixing the core issue with their balance. You can't always counter-pick, so that can't be used as a fix.
HighH11 votesOf course... This is assuming you are playing draft and not TB like 75% of the gaming populaton on LoL
Some people play it cause it's better than having a guy say mid or feed or teamfighting before you've even selected your champion. In Teambuilder everyone gets their role and decides if they want to be on the JG zilean's team
gamergirlgoddess1 votesThis is about to change in Draft!
vargo7 votesYou misunderstand. The new direction is Candy Crush. Instant gratification for preteens to age 18. Strategy? THINKING? the fuck is that shit?
k so i just looked up and played a minute of candy crush seems like a bad knockoff of bejeweled
Primaquarius7 votesThey have 40+ different styles of the same thing...if anything all of this "new" stuff is a knockoff of Tetris
dr lichdeath5 votesat least tetris was challenging and fun.... ah i miss the days u needed skill(the brain skill not the hand skill) to play things
MohawkBird2 votesCandy crush is one of the most stupidly overrate apps ever. So many people were playing it and it became #1 and google play. Meanwhile I'm here like, "this is the most repetitive and boring game I've ever played."
KnivingDude5 votesYou misunderstand. The new direction is Candy Crush. Instant gratification for preteens to age 18. Strategy? THINKING? the fuck is that shit?
This is what I'm thinking about the preseason right now.
SuicideJ3 votesriot fanboys be like "It's just preseason.. it's always this way." and they don't see the pattern of:
"it's a bad idea, should we do it? Sure." - Riot
AkabaneKun27 votesSR is faster than dominion now lel.
League of Potato6 votesand aram, combined. gj rito [zombie-brand-facepalm]
TriPhoenix1 voteslast few aram games i played i was playing for 20-30 mins all the time
Korillo16 votesEven as a Vlad I can split push and take down a turret with 1 minion wave. This should not be happening.
Thats a Bingo10 votesI dunno. Strategy in season 5 was literally just farm until someone overextends and then TP there to punish them. I mean yeah it was more of a control oriented game, but to me, strategy is being able to take advantage of resources and openings rather than waiting for someone else to make a mistake. I'm still on the fence about this preseason, but it's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be.
League of Potato2 votesexcept it's not exactly fair that if a team picks up any champ that is 1) AD and 2) has lots of crits, they will win without contest.
the fact that yasuo can 1v5 just about any team shows that either rito didn't actually look at what these masteries do to these certain champions or they literally couldn't give a shit.
Ultimatesplash1 voteswell... I'd just say stun him. Of course, I've only played two games, but i won many teamfights w/ taric due to stuns and ult. Yet, we lose the game cuz screw the fact that our team tf better than they did, they got a few early kills, so they deserve to win.
ADepressedLeona3 votes[{quoted}](name=Thats a Bingo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TTMkMrd2,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2015-11-13T17:17:27.353+0000)
I dunno. Strategy in season 5 was literally just farm until someone overextends and then TP there to punish them. I mean yeah it was more of a control oriented game, but to me, strategy is being able to take advantage of resources and openings rather than waiting for someone else to make a mistake. I'm still on the fence about this preseason, but it's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be.
Get your logic out of here, we don't use that on the boards!
Blue Moon Wolf10 votesYou know what's worse? The minion buff for the team that's ahead isn't even in yet O_O
RisenDarkKnight5 votesYeah it sucks. I spend time theorycrafting a build to get 45% cdr with the new mastery only to have the game end in 20 minutes. Last patch one side often had a lead before 20, but it was quite possible to turtle and come back or for the other team to throw their lead. Now they are in your base at 20 mins if they have a small lead (or even just a strong split pusher). One game I took 4 towers and an inhbitor in one push by myself as Miss Fortune (and I lost lane and it was around 22 minutes into the game). Because the towers are sooo squishy.
Spôôked3 votesYeah it sucks. I spend time theorycrafting a build to get 45% cdr with the new mastery only to have the game end in 20 minutes. Last patch one side often had a lead before 20, but it was quite possible to turtle and come back or for the other team to throw their lead. Now they are in your base at 20 mins if they have a small lead (or even just a strong split pusher). One game I took 4 towers and an inhbitor in one push by myself as Miss Fortune (and I lost lane and it was around 22 minutes into the game). Because the towers are sooo squishy.
My greatest game ever was last season, when my team was down to only Nexus, and the enemies had all inhib turrets. We turtled until inhibitors respawned, aced, took baron, and won.
Meanwhile in season 6, I can't even hold a damn turret against 2 people like I could in season 5.
Oh boy, can't wait until those Patch 5.23 minions!
Big Ol Beotch4 votesThis is horrible. I feel like riot has completely failed and ruined their game. I used to not mind losing because I felt like there were plenty of opportunities to come back. Now it's literally upsetting because I'm like... wait WHAT??!?!?! I was winning lane and because the enemy got the first two kills in another lane or something they can just steam roll over us and win??!?!!!? WHAT!?!?!?!?!!!
WAY TOO MUCH SNOWBALL RIOT! NOT FUN AT ALL!
PLEASE PUT THE TOWERS BACK THE WAY THEY WERE
Seenan3 votesVayne's not quite a problem until Phantom Dancer comes back. Even then, she's not really a problem cause of preseason changes. I mean, bork got nerfed..so.
jjookkeerr6 votesruined king lost 2% CURRENTY hp in physical damage, vayne got a buff of 4% MAXIMUM HP IN TRUE DAMAGE. what a nerf
Can U AD See Me7 votesAnd lost the base true damage. Do you even read bro? That if done so that she can kill tanks faster but squishes slower.
Smitemuffin1 votesUntil the get 1500 hp, which is like level 13. Not that it matters, considering she has the highest flat AD buff in the game already
DEmperor952 votesAnd the lowest AD per level in the entire game by far as well. The preseason patch reduced her AD at level 18 by 18. Her damage against squishies is very noticeably lower.
KiIIJoy7 votesIve played quite a few games with her since the new patch and she has a weaker laning phase than before(which is good) and actually makes it easier to deal with her, yes the %hp buff is large but shes meant to be a late game monster.
Also, theres a very noticeable difference to her early game w dmg, its almost laughable.
Can U AD See Me1 votesThat is if you can ever reach to late game now sobs
MohawkBird1 votesThe loss of her base true damage actually evens out when the enemy is at 1500 HP, meaning that enemies above 1500 HP (which practically every champion in the game passes), she is doing more true damage.
CrushforceX1 votesBut that's late game, no champion untill around level 10 reaches that level without health items, so her EARLY game is nerfed
FistOfSharkiesha2 votesSurprised nobody has realized how good Miss Fortune is, she's a nightmare. 120% AS boost on an extremely short cooldown. All she has to do is attack 1 minion every <3 seconds and it can be used infinitely.
Smitemuffin3 votesWhile, yes, her ult can hit a 1440% AD scale (especially if your support has Harbinger), she's still 100% dependent on your opponents in lane being bad. Her combo sucks when she's behind. And she will always have that problem until Riot makes her Double Up stop prioritizing minions over champions. Especially now that any mana sustain is 3600 gold away. She just can't fight back. Can't even push the wave back because her mana/damage ratio is so high
FistOfSharkiesha3 votesI was talking about her turret taking power though. She takes them twice as fast as other Marksmen without AS boosts. As long as there's one minion she can attack to refresh her strut AS bonus she's got 120% bonus AS at all times.
Numot2 votesUm, if you do your research they are already hot fixing the big issue, warlords bloodlust. And I have yet to see a game end before 20 minutes and have had 40-60 minute games on this patch
V1CTIS HONOR3 votesYou're lucky...I've had nothing over 30. Had a game end in 17 minutes yesterday.
UrPalAl2 votesChill, its preseason, its practically just PBE Live Edition, if you don't like it, hold off. Theres gonna be a lot of broken shit, of course, keep making threads like this, it's what hells Riot fix it up, but don't be so rude about it for no reason.
Boomerangbro3 votesChill, its preseason, its practically just PBE Live Edition, if you don't like it, hold off. Theres gonna be a lot of broken shit, of course, keep making threads like this, it's what hells Riot fix it up, but don't be so rude about it for no reason.
Were not rude about it for no reason. We warned them and made a ton of threads during PBE testing. We told them that Graves was too strong. Masteries were in the wrong places and some champs were better than others. I made so many threads along with others about the balance state of the game, yet it all got ignored and implemented anyway.
So as long as theyre ignoring us, we need to be forceful about it. It's called tough love. If you ignore feedback on the PBE, then be prepared to face harsher criticism on live.
Dishcandanty2 votesJust wanted to drop a note about this. The direction this patch has is horrible.... The games end so fast. I can't remember the last time ive gotten more than 1.5 items. Not fun
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Boomerangbro3 votesYou reek of maining Yasuo. Of course you would like the new patch. You abuse the OP champs cause you want FREE WINS! Well, there used to be different ways of playing this game. Now its whoever gets Yasuo/Graves/Caitlyn first. Nothing wrong with 40 minute games. There is something wrong with 15 minute games though.
Oh, and fyi, I dont even own jinx. I main Aatrox and Bard.
SuicideJ1 votesBard cost my team first blood by not paying attention, and ruined amumus ult with his ult and got everyone killed because of it.. this is like 8 minutes int the game. we lost by like 20 kills. We had Yasuo and he was an idiot and terrible and died over and over to the same trick. I was MF as she is my main and couldn't do anything against caitlyn and alistar. I wanted to sit in base and cry because I can't do anything without a good support and I'm a good support.. oh wait they obliterated Talisman of Ascension to uselessness.. Thanks for that Riot. I can't play any champ I was good at except Volibear now.. so much fun playing every game as the same champ, doing well only to lose because your team doesn't know how to play. Thanks Riot.
