I Miss Zephyr.

Boomerangbro··105 votes·4,507 views

Seriously. Tenacity, just makes the game better. Right now Assassins are running rampant and youre getting champions like TahmKench who can just permaslow you. Everything right now is a CC fest into getting you in place for the opposing teams assassin.

It's either have TahmKench permaslow you into the enemy MissFortune ult, or a freakin 600 ms runic Udyr stunning you every 2 seconds, or a Lux that will just stay under tower and will snare anything that she sees.

Literally, please bring back Zephyr. There was nothing wrong with it. I'm sure a Billion more people will buy it now that they have all these annoying cc champs that will keep you in place for their assassin to finish you.

Plus, it also had great stats. The tenacity was just the icing. Attack speed and movement speed, attack damage and CDR. This was my first rushed item when I play Aatrox. Heck, even Udyr and Shyvana use it. Can we please bring this back to rival item 3124.

Literally, every single attack speed champ builds rageblade right now. Bring back ZEPHYR!

Edit: Now, now while I do admit Zephyr had its flaws, I do wish it was just reworked instead of just removed. Having the tenacity on it was just super good. Maybe it could be reworked into a bruiser item. Attack speed, CDR, Ms, armor, tenacity.

51 Comments

Sohleks20 votes

Stinger (1200g) item 3101 is such a cool item. It is a shame it only builds into an AP item.

Also I tried double stinger once. Very fun. It is a shame its CDR is unique for no good reason.

I think the removal of Zephyr was brash, especially considering the void of options non hybrid fighters have for attack speed needs.

Something like item 3137 is needed. (I think this item is OP... well not as OP as the new Sash on SR... Maybe this item or something very similar should be on SR now... Tho mr specific sounds lame....)

How about a strong HP/AS item? Some hp and a lot of AS... Like that ADCs should still prefer their crit choices right?

What could go wrong..? MasterYi item 3748

kile1474 votes

How about a strong HP/AS item? Some hp and a lot of AS... Like that ADCs should still prefer their crit choices right?

You wish the world you know to end... good. Chogath

Axis the Dragon17 votes

Udyritem 3025 item 3065item 3512 item 3742 item 3009 + Zephyr

Good luck catching him, ever, and good luck stopping his splitpushing. xD

charcharmunro2 votes

They'll PROBABLY nerf Udyr sometime soon, because of how ridiculous he is right now.

UnderscorBunnies1 votes

You forgot to enchant those with alacrity. :P

Billy VoHagen2 votes

It's not udyr, it's the items.

Crossette2 votes

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It's both udyr and the items.

Fixed

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[{quoted}](name=Axis the Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HcAAREnE,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-02-09T02:32:35.407+0000)

Udyritem 3025 item 3065item 3512 item 3742 item 3009 + Zephyr

Good luck catching him, ever, and good luck stopping his splitpushing. xD

Too bad top lane Udyr isn't that popular

Axis the Dragon1 votes

Lol fine

Replace item 3512 by item 1402

rollya8 votes

i miss green wards and pink trinket

Ardond8 votes

not going to lie, I didn't even realize it was taken out.

delonix7 votes

To be fair, there's no way for me to see exactly how often you built Zephyr, but I can see your ranked games with Aatrox, where you only built Zephyr 2 out of 10 games before it was removed. You played more Nocturne and Trundle than Aatrox, and while you were building AD, Attack Speed, and sometimes even Tenacity on them, you never built Zephyr. I didn't look through all of your ranked games, and it's possible you build Zephyr much more frequently in normals for some reason, but I think you're overestimating how much you used it.

There may have been "nothing wrong with it," but that's not the reason Riot removed Zephyr in the first place. The full explanation is in the 5.22 patch notes, but a summary is that Riot tries to get rid of some items every preseason for design trust (players should be able to trust that items are cost-efficient and not extremely situational) and design clutter (having a lot of niche items hides actual balance problems on champions).

Boomerangbro6 votes

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To be fair, there's no way for me to see exactly how often you built Zephyr, but I can see your ranked games with Aatrox, where you only built Zephyr 2 out of 10 games before it was removed. You played more Nocturne and Trundle than Aatrox, and while you were building AD, Attack Speed, and sometimes even Tenacity on them, you never built Zephyr. I didn't look through all of your ranked games, and it's possible you build Zephyr much more frequently in normals for some reason, but I think you're overestimating how much you used it.

There may have been "nothing wrong with it," but that's not the reason Riot removed Zephyr in the first place. The full explanation is in the 5.22 patch notes, but a summary is that Riot tries to get rid of some items every preseason for design trust (players should be able to trust that items are cost-efficient and not extremely situational) and design clutter (having a lot of niche items hides actual balance problems on champions).

I built Zephyr on all attack speed champs in normals. During Ranked, I didn't need Zephyr as much, because champs like Tahm werent even released yet. There was no need for Tenacity. Now that Tahm and Udyr are running rampant. I think we all need Tenacity again.

delonix1 votes

Tahm was actually out for 4 months before Zephyr was removed, but I don't think that's even a very valid reason. Control heavy champions have been around for a really long time. Morgana has been a staple support for the past 2 seasons, and there's no real indication that she's getting weaker. Annie, Veigar, Syndra, etc., are all cc heavy. And it isn't just control mages. Tenacity is huge against Nasus, Irelia, Amumu, Sejuani, and Ashe, as well as many others.

People might need tenacity again, and Riot might even release a new tenacity item in the near future, but I don't think that it will be Zephyr, or even similar to Zephyr.

If you really feel that tenacity would significantly improve your enjoyment of the game, there's still Irelia, Mundo, Mercury Treads, and Elixir of Iron. You could also try out Olaf and Master Yi, who have the ability to ignore cc for a duration.

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

I feel like they should have just reworked it into a tank item. There's plenty of tanks that I'd like to have some attack speed on but aside from Dervish on 3v3, there's no attack speed item that gives any real defenses.

delonix1 votes

Wit's End is pretty situational, but it can be a nice pick up for attack speed reliant tanks sometimes. If your team and the enemy team are both AP heavy (pretty rare these days), it's fantastic because it actually steals Magic Resist from the people you hit and gives it to you.

Owntrolf7 votes

I miss old Banner of Command and old Captains

Those were the bomb

XeroKimo3 votes

What did old captains do again? I thought it always gave movement speed buff to allies when walking towards the champ with it

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

the passive still exist on a different item. i think captain enchantment on boots give that as well.

LordKentravyon1 votes

old captaisn boosted the movement speed of minions. Got removed with the season 5 baron changes.

It was fantastic on AD malz for giving his vodilings a speed buff item 3070

The Bíg Ticket4 votes

No one who builds Rageblade would build Zephyr over it.

Boomerangbro3 votes

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No one who builds Rageblade would build Zephyr over it.

Thats why we should nerf rageblade back to the hybrid item it once was and reintroduce Zephyr back with tweaked stats so that it would become the hybrid attack/defense item.

PiVoRx4 votes

Zephyr was used as late gime item, often exchanged for boots.

The Bíg Ticket2 votes

Yes but the OP said it would give Rageblade users an option to replace it with Zephyr which no one would do.

IreliaCarrlesU1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Buff Jax please,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HcAAREnE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-02-08T23:29:21.706+0000)

No one who builds Rageblade would build Zephyr over it.

Irelia hey there.

The Bíg Ticket1 votes

No...Rageblade is better on Irelia than Zephyr ever was.

A Basic Island4 votes

i miss zephyr too

The 10% movement speed was soo good. It was just a very nice item overall.

spirit cooking3 votes

that feel when u sell boots for zephyr

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that feel when u sell boots for zephyr

Gets me wet

NsEternal2 votes

if rageblade went back to the way it was and they brought back zephyr id be very ghappy

Sahn Uzal1 votes

if rageblade was removed and they brought back zephyr id be very ghappy

Fixed summoner 31

AninLegions7772 votes

Zephyr was awesome.

Shadow Hazard1 votes

They should remove the pickaxe and then add qss into the build path and bring it back of course

Festive Bear1 votes

I liked Zephyr, but it was never something I would really get possibly ever really. It only worked on ones that needed attack speed, but for me I never got it. Didn't give damage or lifesteal. BoRK gives AD, AS, and lifesteal. For me that was a much better option. And if you needed tenacity, you got the boots. But this is just my opinion

But i do miss 50,000 move speed hecarim

Steven Mcburn2 votes

Zephyr gave 50 AD, how did it not give attack damage?

Festive Bear1 votes

Oh it did? my mistake didn't realize that. But anyways I barely used it if at all so I wouldn't know

Nagma is back1 votes

i miss map awarness

TaoistMaster4 votes

This never existed

Mhihnj1 votes

lol i once built Zephyr on Nautilus. I was pretty new that time though.

Maximum Morde1 votes

I almost never saw zephyr built.

DonTGR1 votes

i miss haribo vampire, i wish i had a bag of 200gr haribo vampire.. ohh snap wrong threat...

elon wątroba1 votes

It was pretty much "win more" irelia item.

AzureInTheDark1 votes

Nobody expects the Mallet. Nasus Gnar item 3022

Erotic Terrorist1 votes

Zephyr was a really fun item and it was also amazing in hide and seek.

Silents4291 votes

Nah, nah.

Let's not suddenly pretend people would suddenly pick an item that wasn't popular and only served to make certain split pushing AA's fairly obnoxious.

It might see a bit of play at re-release but then pretty quickly that will drop when the goggles come off and everyone sees how bad it is.

Sevixys1 votes

We definitely need more tenacity options.

What do we have now? item 3111 and swiftness/resolve tier 5 mastery - which is only available for tanks. Nothing more.

I'd not call that diverse... [zombie-brand-facepalm]

GrReaper961 votes

I just want an as item that gives as only and no crit. The only items that do that now are item 3091 which suck now, item 3142 which only gives as on its passive and item 3153 which doesnt give much as. I miss the old item 3085

SolidPooh1 votes

Hellooooo there miss Zephyr

Boomerangbro1 votes

Or we could just re-introduce it and change existing items such as rageblade.

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