Press the attack needs to be buffed for melee champions

Ahristocats·Jan 20, 2018·30 votes·2,134 views

let's face it press the attack is so garbage it's literally a free lose

adcs are using flee footwork yasuo is going for flee footwork shyvana and sejuani who loves the attack speed at lvl 1, use flee footwork in LCK

"flee footwork is just broken"

then explain why draven goes for aery? camille goes for comet? jax goes for klepto? (tho klepto is broken but take a look at jax's win rate with press the attack)

literally NO ONE uses press the attack anymore in high elo

if you're a melee champion you're literally exposing yourself to little reward for a long time i mean goddamn it make adcs going for flee footwork make melees opting for precision going for press the attack

43 Comments

Sire HippingtonJan 20, 20188 votes

Well, one reason for shy (and seju) useing fleetfoodwork is because it works in the jungle and gives them sustain for the early clears, while press the attack only works on champs.

then explain why draven goes for aery? camille goes for comet?

Both have poor AS scaleing, so getting the bonus AD rather than bonus AS from runes makes a big difference on them.

Not saying press the attack is very attractive right now, but alot comes from the overall state of the game and runes system. Linking stats to the primary tree is rather stupid imo, there are plenty of champs that can't really go for intteresting keystones because the'd end up with bad bonus stats for them. The current state of the game favours save early laneing(in high elo) to minimize the risk of an opposing snowball, so an all-in focused mastery like PTA is not as wanted as a savety+sustain mastery like flee. Toplane has a similar issue there going for all-out trades exposes you to the jungler that can punish you very early, which also generally favours ranged poke and tanky cc bots over bruisers, since all-out trades are the one big strength of most bruisers and if they can't really use that strength, they struggle alot. The overall powerlevel of runes is just to high, and the (to) strong runes outshine the ok ones. Imo it's like with adc, nerf the ones that dominate rather than buffing the ones that struggle, we don't need more powercreep.

Also, did you ever see lethal tempo on anyone ever?(exept maybe Vayne or Kog) that one is basically a more shitty version of PTA...

AhristocatsJan 20, 20182 votes

i saw lethal tempo on jinx kog aatrox

it will work once the overheal flee footwork relic shield thing disappear

RexxieeJan 20, 20187 votes

It needs a buff for everyone, its bad on adcs aswell, all you have to do is take PtA on any champion, then 20 mins in you press tab and check its damage done and compare to every other damage keystone in the game and have a good laugh.

The last nerf needs to be reverted, idk why they keep nerfing precision when inspiration and sorcery are the trees dominating the game (+ resolve keystones).

AhristocatsJan 20, 20186 votes

Lol it's rare that i agree with you

let's nerf triumph and coup de grace when stopwatch is disgusting

RexxieeJan 20, 20183 votes

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Lol it's rare that i agree with you

let's nerf trimph and coup de grace when stopwatch is disgusting

Literally every lane is going stopwatch + free boots in competitive, theres like 8~ stopwatches per game, everyone is starting to do that in solo q now.

Gotta nerf precision though.

Bob the ToastrJan 20, 20182 votes

I do agree that stopwatch needs a nerf but Triumph and coup de grace are overtuned compared to the rest of the precision tree. All of them need nerfs

ProfDrDeathJan 21, 20181 votes

Let's just look on what Riot could work with for 8.2, which is due for release next week (and thus work on ended early this week): The data from solo and flex queue and maybe exploration during scrims. In that context, Triumph and Coup probably looked like bigger problems.

Now, with a solid week of competitive under the belt, they can look at 8.3 and 8.4 for changes that are more focused on competitive. And, from my PoV, those should incorporate:

nerfs to Azir and Ryze (Azir's overhaul went not far enough, and Ryze needs to lose that Zhonya's/Realm Warp synergy - Warp should simply not teleport untargetable units).
nerf to Fleet Footwork (just a small one, you're right that it completely overshadows its brethren keystones. Its strength also continues the cancerous Triple-Crit rush ADC meta)
changes to Unsealed Spellbook
nerfs to Magical Footwear (confirmed) and possibly Perfect Timing (returning to base required to get Stopwatch?)

PennsJan 20, 20182 votes

if you're a melee champion you're literally exposing yourself to little reward for a long time i mean goddamn it

reminds me of a 2 second delayed mark hehe

I wouldnt mind a melee buff to it but ya gotta nerf Shyvana and maybe Kled Yasuo then Also Draven goes Aery/Klepto for de AD

AhristocatsJan 20, 20186 votes

nerf yasuo who doesn't take press the attack

sounds good

PennsJan 20, 20181 votes

He would if it gets buffed

AhristocatsJan 20, 20183 votes

So?

Yasuo is doing good with a good keystone (flee footwork) if he goes for an other good keystone there won't be any change of power

PennsJan 20, 20182 votes

Well it depends on how much you would buff it. More damage seems more oppressive than a heal to me.

wildfox99Jan 20, 20181 votes

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reminds me of a 2 second delayed mark hehe

I wouldnt mind a melee buff to it but ya gotta nerf and maybe then Also Draven goes Aery/Klepto for de AD

and revert fizz(?) [slayer-jinx-wink]

wildfox99Jan 20, 20182 votes

Press the attack needs to be ~~buffed~~ nerfed for ~~ melee~~ ranged champions

no need to broke champions like Shyvana or Udyr ,it may be too strong just on ADCs but i think as melee it's fine

Daddy AntsJan 21, 20181 votes

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no need to broke champions like or ,it may be too strong just on ADCs but i think as melee it's fine

Shyvana is broken anyway.

Udyr's borderline broken as well.

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Kinda pseudo-quit this game. Why is Press the Attack so weak now? I know that Fleet Footwork gives a stacks up alot of sustain throughout the game but I haven't played much marksmen so idk about Press the Attack.

Fleet is OP.

PTA was go to on many ADC's until they nerfed it into oblivion and made Fleet op.

wildfox99Jan 21, 20181 votes

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Shyvana is broken anyway.

Udyr's borderline broken as well.

so let's make them even more broken?

oh wait,that's exatly how riot works,so maybe yes [sg-miss-fortune]

Daddy AntsJan 21, 20181 votes

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so let's make them even more broken?

oh wait,that's exatly how riot works,so maybe yes [sg-miss-fortune]

The Rito special.

[sg-soraka]

ZephyrDrakeJan 20, 20182 votes

buff something so that it breaks several champions in half... good logic

FlameHalbrdOkidoJan 20, 20182 votes

im actually not ok with the sustain Fleetfoot work gives especially the amount it gives to ranged champions it doesnt seem healthy

GayFluffyUnicornJan 20, 20185 votes

Fleetfootwork is actually a great option for someone like jax if you are in a shit tank matchup or teemo matchup but then again it's only balanced for shitty adcs who have been toxic with it over a year and the moment riot buffs it for crit users it's bullshit on them again. Remove the crit option, give it better ad scale, make a ranged/melee distribution and boom you have a keystone viable for more classes.

FlameHalbrdOkidoJan 21, 20181 votes

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Fleetfootwork is actually a great option for someone like jax if you are in a shit tank matchup or teemo matchup but then again it's only balanced for shitty adcs who have been toxic with it over a year and the moment riot buffs it for crit users it's bullshit on them again. Remove the crit option, give it better ad scale, make a ranged/melee distribution and boom you have a keystone viable for more classes.

id upvote this if i could

The Bad TouchJan 20, 20182 votes

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let's face it press the attack is so garbage it's literally a free lose

adcs are using flee footwork yasuo is going for flee footwork shyvana and sejuani who loves the attack speed at lvl 1, use flee footwork in LCK

"flee footwork is just broken"

then explain why draven goes for aery? camille goes for comet? jax goes for klepto? (tho klepto is broken but take a look at jax's win rate with press the attack)

literally NO ONE uses press the attack anymore in high elo

if you're a melee champion you're literally exposing yourself to little reward for a long time i mean goddamn it make adcs going for flee footwork make melees opting for precision going for press the attack

Press the attack is already free wins with Yi... what more do you want? Stop asking for damage buffs.... too much of that already.

Sun Wu RyuumokuJan 21, 20181 votes

yi free win ???

salty testiJan 20, 20182 votes

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CelebrimborrJan 21, 20181 votes

She is so good top lane now with how good she can trade with it

Somebody Love MeJan 21, 20182 votes

I'd rather not buff it, but instead nerf fleet footwork.

PtA is kinda strong on certain champs, and a buff would be too much. Plus I honestly think they should tone down buffs for a bit and focus on bringing damage down.

AirKingNeoJan 20, 20181 votes

Even Kayle is taking Lethal Tempo (and the only person besides Aatrox doing so).

SithesisLordJan 21, 20181 votes

Or Inspiration+Precision with Kleptomancy.

Jinzo TorranceJan 20, 20181 votes

Just revert PtA to the beta version where it was old Fervor that stacked infinitely and could give AP instead of AD if you built more AP, reduce it or cap it for ranged.

Chembaron YamadaJan 20, 20181 votes

Can't tell for the others, but Camille doesn't take Precision since she doesn't really synergize that much with the tree.

If she has the decision between getting AD and AS, she should prefer AD. Her main damage tool is her Q, which benefits more from additional AD than AS, especially the true damage portion of her Q2. The true damage of her Q doesn't benefit from Press the Attack, too, since true damage can't get increased.

GayFluffyUnicornJan 20, 20181 votes

Camille has short trade pattern. Her entire dmg revolves around her Q auto resets. More attackspeed makes her animations more fluid and helps her get in more autos during Q trade patterns and one or two autos are way better than 5 more dmg especially early on. Idk why people are so insistent that she totally needs the flat AD and would never ever take the AS. The AS is not bad or a worse option than AD. 20% AS is just too much with no bonus AD at all on top of every keystone sucking on her.

KlydeFrogJan 20, 20181 votes

So what's your saying is you should be using lethal tempo

BubbaVJan 20, 20181 votes

why are you calling it flee footwork

AhristocatsJan 20, 20182 votes

what's the name?

BubbaVJan 20, 20185 votes

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what's the name?

fleet footwork

Hèntaî Jan 20, 20181 votes

Wait people are building footwork on yas? I always go lethal or grasp if Im feelin a little funky

Kingdom CornJan 20, 20181 votes

press the attack doesnt work on TRUE damage, which is why no one takes it on Camille .

The Minion huntJan 21, 20181 votes

item 3123 if you lane to kill, this wrecks that. if you lane to farm, who give a shit.

KoKobotoJan 21, 20181 votes

Kinda pseudo-quit this game. Why is Press the Attack so weak now? I know that Fleet Footwork gives a stacks up alot of sustain throughout the game but I haven't played much marksmen so idk about Press the Attack.