So Tank ekko is still a problem i see

Succubús GF·May 25, 2016·11 votes·901 views

I guess there really isnt a way to fix it, but im getting tired of wasting a ban on ekko so i dont see him full tank and do all of our hp in seconds.

21 Comments

Cenobite AzazielMay 25, 20164 votes

http://matchhistory.br.leagueoflegends.com/pt/#match-details/BR1/793676651/200399580?tab=stats

Dealt more damage than a full dps kayle. Just tank items. Dealt more damage than a fed talon. Dealt almost the same damage as Caitlyn. No AP ITEM. Just tank items.

CerealBoxOfDoomMay 25, 20161 votes

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http://matchhistory.br.leagueoflegends.com/pt/#match-details/BR1/793676651/200399580?tab=stats

Dealt more damage than a full dps kayle. Just tank items. Dealt more damage than a fed talon. Dealt almost the same damage as Caitlyn. No AP ITEM. Just tank items.

and yet you were winning overwhelmingly till trash gameplay lost you a match that was practically in the bag.

if you deal damage all the time you get more damage at the end of the game.

But they also noticed that phreak, professional league player, also dealt low damage by the end game and asked him about this to which he gave his famous response, "I don't often deal damage but when I do its tons of damage!"

This is exactly how kayle works. She's not constantly hitting things like an idiot, ekko can't push or fight unless he does when he's full tank.

This is why you were winning heavily regardless and that would have been why you lost if you didnt throw the match

Cenobite AzazielMay 26, 20161 votes

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and yet you were winning overwhelmingly till trash gameplay lost you a match that was practically in the bag.

if you deal damage all the time you get more damage at the end of the game.

I like how you go "know what happened" in the game even if you don't played it. Sure, you can read a lot seeing the statistics, but you won't see ekko sliding away with a sliver of life after a TF. I like how you go "OHHH you don't know how to play kayle" yet you give me nothing to work. I guess you are diamond player kayle?

This is exactly how kayle works. She's not constantly hitting things like an idiot, ekko can't push or fight unless he does when he's full tank.

Wow. So kayle DPS is a burst mage now (that was heavily nerfed last season if I recall)? Kayle is a AOE DPS and similar to an ADC. She IS squishy as and adc. Why should I play some one that deal LESS damage than a utility tank?

Ekko damage and survivability is similiar to mundo before his nerfs. Mundo, the guy with single target skillshot slow and a move speed attached to his ult. Mundo the juggernaut.

I have no problem with any juggernaut having that damage. But a tank with utility? With 3 slows, gap closer, execute and a potential aoe stun?

It like having tank malphite dealing the same damage as AP malphite.

This is why you were winning heavily regardless and that would have been why you lost if you didn't throw the match

Sure there were some throws, even professional game has throws. But hey hey hey, mister expert knows more than riot. Tank ekko is getting nerfed for nothing in pbe again.

CerealBoxOfDoomMay 26, 20162 votes

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I like how you go "know what happened" in the game even if you don't played it. Sure, you can read a lot seeing the statistics, but you won't see ekko sliding away with a sliver of life after a TF.

Correct, I can see a lot in statistics. Assuming you werent trolling or something. I don't care if ekko slid away with a sliver of life, I want to know what you did while he ran like a bitch. Did you stop to type something stupid or did you get your ass into gear and capitalize and tell your team he was screwed.

I like how you go "OHHH you don't know how to play kayle" yet you give me nothing to work. I guess you are diamond player kayle?

and when the fuck did I say that, why didn't you quote it? Its because I didn't say that.

I don't care if youre a challenger player that doesnt mean you understand the statistics which is why youre acting like its surprising that I can read them.

Wow. So kayle DPS is a burst mage now (that was heavily nerfed last season if I recall)? Kayle is a AOE DPS and similar to an ADC. She IS squishy as and adc. Why should I play some one that deal LESS damage than a utility tank?

Who the fuck even said this? Phreak played irelia what the hell are you talking about? Nobody said shit about any burst mage.

Kayle has aoe DPS with a short windup. Call it what you want but she doesnt need to constantly be utilizing her damage like ekko does. Ekko doesnt get shit done unless he's constantly doing this especially against a sustain champ.

Ekko damage and survivability is similiar to mundo before his nerfs. Mundo, the guy with single target skillshot slow and a move speed attached to his ult. Mundo the juggernaut.

Mundo was shit for the longest time and got toned down as they made alot of other changes. Mundo does good sometimes but for the most part he really isnt that big an issue, he never has been and niether is ekko Mundo has ranged, manaless, max hp damage on a low cooldown Mundo doesn't have to go base when you get him down to 10hp

I don't care if he has mundo's damage, mundo didn't have great damage, and frankly mundo is better at it than ekko is. I don't care if he has mundo's survivability. You can send him running with his tail between his legs just like mundo

I have no problem with any juggernaut having that damage. But a tank with utility? With 3 slows, gap closer, execute and a potential aoe stun?

who cares? He does nothing unless you fell that far behind anyways. Of course you went glass as hell so I can see why you might struggle but the stats say you were doing just fine, ekko wasn't even getting kills till 18 minutes into the match. Strong early with a climax and burn out. He acts similarly to a really shitty juggernaut regardless of his mobility. While he was frustrating the hell out of you your team reached a 6.9k advantage.

I'm sure it looked very intimidating... but you were absolutely shitting on him. Just all over him. Just smearing it in his face. But then somehow your team threw after you lost baron.

It like having tank malphite dealing the same damage as AP malphite.

More like AD malphite. Tank ekko's damage isnt that good. One match I'd splitpush and just teleport out while he hit me to outrun him because his damage was so terrible. You just can't stop him from dealing it, similar to garen but he has no really significant execute. But he's like AD malphite because he doesnt deal much damage but then you just cant make him stop and really even then he doesnt have the CC. His stun is nothing compared to that CC ignoring knockup.

Sure there were some throws, even professional game has throws.

You lost from a 6.9k lead. That's not just throws that massive throws. That's catastrophic throws.

The point is that tank ekko isnt why you lost and likely had very little to do with why you lost. Killing ekko makes you feel good but it isnt the objective. You didnt lose because of ekko you lost because of some huge throws.

Monstrous throws More throws than a baseball game You threw thoroughly You choked You keeled over You dropped the ball

But hey hey hey, mister expert knows more than riot. Tank ekko is getting nerfed for nothing in pbe again.

I know alot, and so does riot.

I know more than you apparently, you don't have to be OP to get nerfs from riot, they've mentioned this several times. He's also getting buffs by the way but the crying children on the gameplay forums probably wont mention that part because it doesnt fit into their little realty.

Btw epic throws.

so little to do with ekko.

macromiteJun 1, 20161 votes

you are entirely correct.

MunchCrunchLunchMay 25, 20161 votes

not really. is he strong. yes. there are stronger picks tho.

AramsAreBestMay 25, 20161 votes

Deja vu bad times

MunchCrunchLunchMay 25, 20161 votes

wont be long before the same shit happens again . am guessing around the same time next year.

AramsAreBestMay 25, 20161 votes

No your username gives me bas deja vu

MunchCrunchLunchMay 25, 20161 votes

yeah. speaking off i gotta grab food

SkiasMay 25, 20161 votes

Honestly though, tank ekko falls off pretty bad if your adc gets lord dominiks regards. He can still be melted and does shitty damage late if you have a front line.

AckelopeMay 25, 20161 votes

Is it wasting a ban if he does all your hp in seconds while building full tank, as you say? It's not a waste if it removes something that's gonna make you lose.

Not advocating for Ekko being balanced lately, just thought it was poor wording.

paisyMay 25, 20161 votes

Yeah I noticed that too

CerealBoxOfDoomMay 25, 20161 votes

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I guess there really isnt a way to fix it, but im getting tired of wasting a ban on ekko so i dont see him full tank and do all of our hp in seconds.

he's not really a problem.

one game i played rather than run from him I just used teleport to escape. He couldnt do shit about it in time.

His damage is shit. Get hp and ignore him. Simple as that for some champs.

VentusDragoonMay 26, 20161 votes

Just went against a Tank Ekko for the first time.

Whew. He destroyed our Zed soundly.

The WhamboozlerMay 26, 20161 votes

Gee, it's almost like making a champion with a massively overloaded kit full of utility, mobility, damage, defense and a ton of versatility in both role and build path was a BAD idea. Seriously. How did no one at Riot see this coming? Ekko has basically EVERYTHING in his kit. When they made him they said he would be a "sustained damage, skirmishing assassin". Except "sustained damage" isn't an assassin thing, that's what fighters, bruisers and some tanks do. They gave him the kit of a tank with assassin-type damage and scalings. Is anyone shocked he became a monster?

Unless he loses a TON of damage (including his entire three-hit % damage passive), or he gets his utility neutered (not likely barring a rework) he'll always be obnoxious, if not just flat out OP.

Cenobite AzazielJun 1, 20161 votes

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Gee, it's almost like making a champion with a massively overloaded kit full of utility, mobility, damage, defense and a ton of versatility in both role and build path was a BAD idea. Seriously. How did no one at Riot see this coming? Ekko has basically EVERYTHING in his kit. When they made him they said he would be a "sustained damage, skirmishing assassin". Except "sustained damage" isn't an assassin thing, that's what fighters, bruisers and some tanks do. They gave him the kit of a tank with assassin-type damage and scalings. Is anyone shocked he became a monster?

Unless he loses a TON of damage (including his entire three-hit % damage passive), or he gets his utility neutered (not likely barring a rework) he'll always be obnoxious, if not just flat out OP.

I'm curious. It that your main account?

The WhamboozlerJun 1, 20161 votes

Let me guess. If it's not you're going to demand to know my main and shitpost me for posting on a smurf, and if it is you're going to try to pull rank and call me trash. Right? Seriously. Name a single non-douchey reason you could need to know this?

Cenobite AzazielJun 1, 20161 votes

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Let me guess. If it's not you're going to demand to know my main and shitpost me for posting on a smurf, and if it is you're going to try to pull rank and call me trash. Right? Seriously. Name a single non-douchey reason you could need to know this?

My bad, was going to anwser CerealBoxOfDoom . I totally agree with ekko being overloaded.

The WhamboozlerJun 1, 20161 votes

It's kewl. Apologies for being so prickly, but people are often massive jerks to each other on the forums. I assumed wrongly that you were doing the same.

macromiteJun 1, 20161 votes

they need to nerf his damage and embrace tanko. i will say that forever, because ekko will never be an effective assassin unless he is incredibly overpowered.