MFW people complain about malphite Q damage nerf

Ahristocats·Aug 12, 2017·56 votes·2,717 views

when his W IS GOING TO TRIPLE THE ARMOR BUFF AND HIS E HAS AN ARMOR RATIO INTO DAMAGE

L U L

48 Comments

OceanicEyesAug 12, 201725 votes

I'm looking forward to lane wide Iceborn procs

MistroTTCAug 12, 201748 votes

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I'm looking forward to lane wide Iceborn procs

Zed Damn it Syndra got away. Malphite (Hits minion in his lane.) Zed Never mind.

Cryo00Aug 13, 20172 votes

Doesn't a late game Sejuani do that anyways ?

OceanicEyesAug 14, 20171 votes

The more the merrier

Jinzo TorranceAug 12, 201722 votes

MFW people say "MFW" but don't show their face

EschetonAug 12, 20174 votes

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MFW people say "MFW" but don't show their face

My Feels When

SkorchAug 13, 20172 votes

But you also didnt show your face...

MelledoneusAug 13, 201710 votes

Obviously they are using the alternative acronym, "My Fretful Woes."

The Boards harbor some intelligent folk.

Velzard of KozAug 13, 20171 votes

I thought it's My Fellow Words

PennsAug 12, 201711 votes

not everyone has as high iq as us assassin and juggernaut ubermensch hehe

AhristocatsAug 12, 20176 votes

thank you

but i'm a morde main :(

PennsAug 12, 20179 votes

Morde is a juggernaut too tho

Big LincolnAug 12, 20175 votes

nah mord is mage scum lol

PennsAug 12, 20176 votes

at least he builds item 3078 so iq is 80+ kek

DurzakaAug 12, 201711 votes

triple armor buff. While his shield is up.

You know, the shield that even minions can kill.

Late game its gonna be good. But early game the lost damage on Q is massive.

SteelflameAug 13, 20171 votes

Early game he also got massively decreased mana cost so that he can actually afford to use it.

In the early game or when using it as a 1 point wonder, the mana to damage/MS steal ratio is far improved in Malph's favor.

Sire HippingtonAug 12, 20177 votes

Only while passive is up, so not a reliable steroid, especially not to his damage. And the armor ratio isn't that great, it's 40%, and the aditional armor duering passive is at max 70%, so Es duering passive do 0.7X0.4=0.28 armor more than befor. That means you need over300 armor(without W) to break even with the old all-in burst.

AhristocatsAug 12, 20174 votes

during passive the armor is trippled which means it's 35%*3=105%

no clue how you got your math son

Sire HippingtonAug 12, 20174 votes

he always had 35%, so the **difference **from live to pbe is 105% - 35% = 70%

AhristocatsAug 12, 20171 votes

Ok, so you need over 300 armor to break the old all in burst

but new malphite is able to get over 600 armor what's your point?

Sire HippingtonAug 13, 20174 votes

300 armor WITHOUT the W. so 208 bonus armor from runes/items at 18, which means for the majority of the game you'll be below that unless you face a full ad team and thus can stack nothin but armor, and in that scenario he already was super strong without any needs for a buff.

Those changes will mostly turn him into a ultbot, because once his first combo is out and the passive gets popped, he offers very little with the damage and utillity nerfs to his Q, and that's my main issue with them. Even if the increased armor and weaker Q turns out to be a buff overall(still don't think so), i don't think it's a good direction for his gameplay.

Iota ThetaAug 13, 20172 votes

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300 armor WITHOUT the W. so 208 bonus armor from runes/items at 18, which means for the majority of the game you'll be below that unless you face a full ad team and thus can stack nothin but armor, and in that scenario he already was super strong without any needs for a buff.

Those changes will mostly turn him into a ultbot, because once his first combo is out and the passive gets popped, he offers very little with the damage and utillity nerfs to his Q, and that's my main issue with them. Even if the increased armor and weaker Q turns out to be a buff overall(still don't think so), i don't think it's a good direction for his gameplay.

You mean he isn't already an ult bot in teamfights? News to me.

Sire HippingtonAug 13, 20171 votes

He already is very ult dependend, yes, which is even more a reason for why those changes go in the wrong direction. Right now, his low cd Q+E still can have decent impact, especially vs AA focused champs, as the Q allows him to stick in range and the E cuts their dps in half while he's doing decent damage with Q+W+E. With that damage and stickiness beeing reduced, there really is nothing left after the ult combo.

Iota ThetaAug 13, 20171 votes

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He already is very ult dependend, yes, which is even more a reason for why those changes go in the wrong direction. Right now, his low cd Q+E still can have decent impact, especially vs AA focused champs, as the Q allows him to stick in range and the E cuts their dps in half while he's doing decent damage with Q+W+E. With that damage and stickiness beeing reduced, there really is nothing left after the ult combo.

His stickiness hasn't really been nerfed. Only 1% less ms at rank 5, and it has a lower CD and mana cosf, so while Q itself deals less damage, it's new uptime could better help that

Sire HippingtonAug 13, 20175 votes

1more cd at max rank and 1 sec lower duration

Iota ThetaAug 13, 20172 votes

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1more cd at max rank and 1 sec lower duration

Ah, you are correct. My bad. That bit slipped my mind

taleofsonataAug 12, 20174 votes

More armor doesn't mean shit to an ADC or Fiora, Jarvan.

Iota ThetaAug 12, 20173 votes

http://gph.is/1biipRP

His W active also has an armor ratio..and when his armor at max rank gets increased by 105%.....that is, unless they got rid of it scaling up with rank..

Edit: huh, posted twice. My bad

Edit: 2nd one gone

ArakadiaAug 12, 20173 votes

W only tripples the effect while his shield is up.

Iota ThetaAug 12, 20171 votes

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W only tripples the effect while his shield is up.

Gives him a moment of super tanking. When dealing with an AD champ and you have enough health, it should stay up a decent amount of time. Mages and true damage are more of a problem, but they always have been

nice tableAug 12, 20173 votes

eh this will make him weaker against ranged champions and buff him against melees and as someone who hates ranged tops with a passion i would still like to complain about this

SanKakUAug 12, 20171 votes

They could make his Q do no base damage but scale with AP for damage and he'd still be a good champion. But people don't want to tank. What is the nerf exactly? Base damage? AP scaling? Both? Be specific!

AhristocatsAug 12, 20172 votes

damage is going down, but the mana cost is also decreased heavily cd is reduced, and MS steal duration is decreased by 1 sec

but people whine about Q damage nerf when he's going to get like +300/400 damage in late game with that armor

SanKakUAug 12, 20171 votes

Honestly, those changes seem great. I haven't been playing him much lately but it isn't because I don't like him. More like I play too much fill and am practicing too many different champs for jungle and hardly ever get top or middle. Not to mention I've been learning new champions for the sake of getting better against them like Ahri for example.

SohleksAug 12, 20171 votes

Rock. Solid.

KoKobotoAug 12, 20171 votes

cuz some people like AP malphite I guess?

HellSingsDOGAug 13, 20171 votes

Yes but his early game poke )'= now i'll have to act like a real rock and just walk up hit smash walk away )'= wont even use q waste of mana.

Mira Arya EntheAug 13, 20171 votes

Good. Malphite is stupid.

TyrekGoldenspearAug 13, 20175 votes

Would you say Malph is as stupid as...

A box of rocks?

RozzetaAug 13, 20171 votes

Brutal Strikes (W) : [New Effect] "While Granite Shield holds, this bonus is tripled."

It'll be for a strong initiation with R and E, but otherwise the shield can be poked.

The Q damage nerf is kind of weird, though, since it's the kind of balance a support would receive to remove them from top.

YambrinZAug 13, 20171 votes

Actually....with Kalista being meta again and worlds coming up...

Maligaro SpikeAug 13, 20171 votes

Q damage nerf make sure Malphite can have normal mana costs, he actually goes oom with just few spells

Small TiddiesAug 13, 20171 votes

Too bad he'll get kited into oblivion anyways.

YambrinZAug 13, 20171 votes

Armor mattering in League 2017 LULLZ. Reminds me of the time they buffed Nasus Q to have lower cd when his ult was active, and then was played in pro scene and....yeah, Nasus is still Nasus and Malphite will still be Malphite.

BârdAug 13, 20171 votes

Yes, but they also nerfed his E's ratio.

PhDs NutsAug 13, 20171 votes

You guys are missing something important about that change.

Q max Malphite countered his rough lanes by giving him enough poke to prevent them from going all-in. It worked great against champs like Jayce and Gnar that build armor shred early and don't have sustain. Now he might actually have non-AP sustain counters again.