Games are ending before late game champs can scale

Doodlzzz··32 votes·1,733 views

Pls rito fix this problem

34 Comments

420 grams10 votes

Then what would be the point of picking an early game champ if you can't end early?

Very Hard Engage7 votes

its not that thats wrong, but rather it just pushes them out entirely.

either everyone should have central early game power or their tools to survive and lead into the late game need to be a bit better.

because as we all know, having a slow (nasus) as your only form of cc isn't enough to stop a riven from mauling your face off.

like whats the point of a kat vs veigar matchup, what do you think happens. veigar doesn't show up to lane or hes 0-11.

420 grams3 votes

I guess I just disagree because then all the champions would feel too similar and the first 20 mins of the game would just be boring and farming

Very Hard Engage4 votes

garen Q vs kassadin W vs darius W vs mundo E vs olaf E.... i can go on.

and ATM if you cant get ahead then you're worthless as a champ.

i distinctly remember back in season 3 where after an all in trade diana vs zed they were both half hp.... thats because damage has been hard injected into the game.

all the late game scalers are forced into cheese builds and then they too can abuse a gold lead all the same, but they cant do their kit to their maximum effectiveness for fear of getting shreked all over in lane and then camped.

Grizzlpaw9 votes

Most late game champions also have very strong midgames. Generally they farm up to their 1-2 item powerspike and then take over the game.

Nasus With >300 stacks and a sheen item

KogMaw With item 3091 and item 3124

Gangplank after item 3078

The advantage of playing one is even after you hit your powerspikes you only get stronger.

Big Lincoln4 votes

no thanks

late game champs are most of the worst designs

Doodlzzz4 votes

so ur the one that trash talks support players >:(

Big Lincoln2 votes

si

Aptest3 votes

i agree with him nontheless.

too many late game champs have a I>you design.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Like early game champions don't?

Aptest1 votes

they don't because for them the trait times out.

Makharya1 votes

And late game have the You>>I design.

I agree that some scaling champ are really safe and too had to punish (like vlad) but it's the goal of lategame champ to reach the poin where ou have an advantage

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Not with how fast the game snowballs these days.

HateDaddy3 votes

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so ur the one that trash talks support players >:(

In his defense, support players tend to be...

Actually I have nothing against support players. It's those damn junglers..

Big Lincoln3 votes

support players are professional victims

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

so... what's job left for princess.... i mean adc ?

Big Lincoln2 votes

hope their support is actually good so they can get to play the game

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

people downvote u... But as a Darius player (or other juggersh*t) its obvious u wont like late games champs.

Big Lincoln3 votes

i have no issue with late game champs

i have issue with these pieces of shit Vayne KogMaw Vladimir Twitch Azir Ryze Cassiopeia becoming point and click gods just because the game lasted more than 20 minutes

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

i agree... more or less.

not for Vladimir

And for your pleasureRyze is weak af atm

Lauchmelder2 votes

Azir's not really an Emperor either right now. He's a better caster minion.

yoshi27902 votes

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i have no issue with late game champs

i have issue with these pieces of shit Vayne KogMaw Vladimir Twitch Azir Ryze Cassiopeia becoming point and click gods just because the game lasted more than 20 minutes

Sorry but Cassiopeia Takes skill to play right in a teamfight, yes your W and R are easy to land, but managing your E while staying safe isn't that easy.

Otherworldz3 votes

That's kind of the point. There's a reason people play a lot of early-mid game champions in LCK and LCS.

GayFluffyUnicorn10 votes

Yeah after riot artificially shortened game times by nerfing/buffing lategame/early champs, first tower blood, drakes. Riot did EVERYTHING to make games faster worsen the game quality imo. And for what? For the sake of lcs not being a 40 minutes farm fest.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku6 votes

And for what?

cause... player were asking for it too.

And for what? For the sake of lcs not being a 40 minutes farm fest.

I don't look lcs... but there many long match on LCK.

FiddlesOnTheRoof3 votes

Agreed. I miss my Jinx/Vayne/Trist.

HateDaddy2 votes

That's not really true. The way the game paces, scaling is simply accelerated. The only disadvantage late game scalers have is that it's become harder for them to make a comeback when behind than it is for your less than stellar scaling or average scaling champions. But that's always been the way to beat late game scalers, so nothing has really changed. Just the speed in which games pace.

Besides, certain "late game" champions are much more terrifying in the mid game than they are the late game if they get their items quickly.

Falling Ic32 votes

yea like vayne. kappa.

GULAG 4 U2 votes

Good thing, because lategame shouldn't come for free. It's a reward that has to be worked in order to obtain.

yoshi27901 votes

I mostly get games where i can get 5+ items. I think it might be that you're climbing to higher elo, and there games end quicker.

Just a thought though.

69469238DEL11 votes

Not true at all

deadlychuck1 votes

Happened to play a protect the kog'maw comp the other day.

Thresh Chogath Lulu TahmKench KogMaw

A traditionally late game tactic, took 33 minutes for us to win. Granted i was 25/1 on kog, but i was still only at item 3124 item 3153 item 3085 and a BF sword.

Sasogwa1 votes

late game has become uninteresting tbh. Supposedly lategame champions like Nasus are just absolute trash against a teamfight oriented comp, everyone destroys everyone in milliseconds, tanks get melted to oblivion...

Borbland1 votes

Sadly, most of late game scaling champions are pretty good early too (KogMaw Vayne ) while they were supposed to be very weak early.

Thats why they are currently broken

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