What's this? A wild Tristana appears!!!!! but this is mid?!?!?!?!
Haha!!! She will never win for she has chosen an ADC mid, that idio---- YOU HAVE BEEN SLAIN 
hol up, wait a se-- ENEMY PENTAKILL "gg ez nubs"
But seriously, get this adc trash out of midlane lol
JackMcSnipeyz33 votes[deleted]
Succubús GF14 votesSo adc itemization being cheaper is a false argument? "Textbook low elo argument hehe xd" Yeah that's why pro players even admit this to being an adc meta. Also stop assuming someone is trash, don't forget that faker lost to a Lucian mid. Is he trash too?
JackMcSnipeyz12 votesFirst, lets not compare pro play to silver game. 2nd, i didnt talk itemization, if anything trist built AP! So idk what you're on about.
3rd, losing a game to someone who he clearly disrespected! And blaming it on the enemy being OP, is infact, a textbook low ELO arguement "xd"
But sure, join the circle jerk while you can m8 "xd"
I lost lane to jax toplane, i guess fighters are OP too right?
HellbornCreator2 votes[deleted]
NineTailedMystic8 votesWtf is this L bullshit
L Psy Kongroo26 votesGive me one good reason to play a mage mid over an ADC like Trist, Lucian, Jhin, Varus, etc. ADC mids have:
Better itemization
Just as good waveclear, with superior tower-taking ability
Better dueling capability
Less reliant on skillshots for damage
Decent burst in some cases, with exponentially higher DPS
Can actually deal damage to tanks
More sustain
Mage mids have:
More cc in some cases
Better early game in some cases
????
Tbh I'm surprised it's taken this long for ADC mids to catch on.
Loki the Sly One1 votesJust saying that I'm stomping with midland Janna 
UnboundHades2 votesBecause Jannas kit is cancer and with the damage change she is stronger in a solo lane
chipndip118 votesStacking one damage type will get you ran over.
Mages have better cc options.
Mages tend to have longer ranges on skill shots to pick back line targets or far off targets with if your divers can't reach them well.
Mages have better burst than marksmen. Stop reaching.
No, marksmen do NOT have better wave clear as a class. Some do individually, but those marksmen suck in the mid lane anyway so why cry about it?
Even if you have factors set to a net neutral, or as much as you can, dueling prowess varies greatly by champion.
NineTailedMystic8 votesLike AD stacking is a problem with BC and LW
chipndip18 votesIf you think that'll save you when you run into legit tanks running you over then go ahead and lose the lp. Not gonna argue over it.
Spank the Fox5 votesHonestly this.
I don't think Boards play the same game if they think AD comps are viable because muh BC and LW. Neither of those will prevent you getting chain CC'd and murdered in 2 seconds.
NineTailedMystic5 votesThat's the CC killing them, not any amount of Armor.
It Hertz When IP3 votesDunno why you're getting downvoted. That chain CC is what lets the enemy fighters/ADCs kill you without fear of retaliation; you'd die the same whether you were Tristana, Ziggs, or Sona.
I do agree that LW and BC can only do so much against an entire enemy team stacking armor (and Bramble/Thornmail!), and that you really want a mixed damage comp overall, but let's be intelligent about this.
iLBGAMing4 votes
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NineTailedMystic5 votesOnly played because people like them. They're not particularly strong atm.
Thilmer22 votesThe main problem is that mages are shit rigth now, and their itemization has been severely nerfed over time with no compensation or adjusting the AP scaling of their skills.
Some skills scaling with +50% AP are completely ridiculous rigth now because of the low AP that a mage gets.
JackMcSnipeyz9 votesFunny, cause in his game tristana built full AP
xJLx MCHammer7 votesThe main problem is that mages are shit rigth now, and their itemization has been severely nerfed over time with no compensation or adjusting the AP scaling of their skills.
Some skills scaling with +50% AP are completely ridiculous rigth now because of the low AP that a mage gets.
I remember you could reach about 1050 AP with full build. That crap IS SO hard now
chipndip18 votesBoy you fed an AP Tristana who had Nashor's Tooth and Lich Bane.
Curious Kat7 votesI'm so tired of seeing 
mid, shit straight up tilts me and makes me want to smash my head on my desk repeatedly to help rid myself of the terminal cancer.
Snowplosion16 votesLucian got nerfed two patches ago just because of his mid landing. He actually sucks as a bot lane carry atm.
HellbornCreator7 votessorry but all the adcs going mid have sub 50 winrates. The reality is the people who lose to them are just bad.
EROTIC RAID BOSS1 votesexception corki and Lucian
Leetri5 votesLucian has a sub 45% win rate mid and Corki is about 47%.
i cant move wtf6 votesThis actually makes me want to start playing ADCs mid. The boards are a self-phelating echo chamber.
Tychusfindlay9188 votes[{quoted}](name=i cant move wtf,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BhEFKAEV,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-10-01T20:49:29.118+0000)
self-phelating
I'll help you out here, you probably were looking for auto-fellating?
Auto-fellatio is the act of performing fellatio on ones self.
i cant move wtf5 votesThanks for helping me bud. Don't know what I'd do without you.
Khristophoros6 votesTrist has never been bad at laning against mid laners. She has an easy time farming mid because the short length compensates for her inability to freeze. She is also great at avoiding ganks. You almost don't even need wards. Perhaps the problem is her roams aren't strong. But I dunno. I could be wrong about that. I'm just trying to think of a reason why she never caught on in mid after the "adcs go mid" era ended years ago.
xJLx MCHammer4 votesTrist has never been bad at laning against mid laners. She has an easy time farming mid because the short length compensates for her inability to freeze. She is also great at avoiding ganks. You almost don't even need wards. Perhaps the problem is her roams aren't strong. But I dunno. I could be wrong about that. I'm just trying to think of a reason why she never caught on in mid after the "adcs go mid" era ended years ago.
She caught on mid but she does have losing match ups. She can lose to a Cass, assassins, and a few other mid laners. She used to be played mid lane, as well as Varus and cait
Right now, the only reason it really has not caught on is because of pro play. While 2 ADC is viable, it's not always 100% better. If Syndra or Orianna get slightly more nerfed, you may actually see the EVEN more adcs in mid
Khristophoros2 votes[{quoted}](name=xJLx MCHammer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BhEFKAEV,comment-id=000c0000,timestamp=2017-10-01T23:34:54.408+0000)
She caught on mid but she does have losing match ups. She can lose to a Cass, assassins, and a few other mid laners. She used to be played mid lane, as well as Varus and cait
Right now, the only reason it really has not caught on is because of pro play. While 2 ADC is viable, it's not always 100% better. If Syndra or Orianna get slightly more nerfed, you may actually see the EVEN more adcs in mid
I mained Trist mid in beta but I lost interest when they nerfed her because it wasn't easymode anymore. lol
I don't remember any seasons after season 1 when she was actually popular in mid, but maybe it happened during one of my breaks.
Sometimes I randomly play her mid for old time's sake and I don't feel like she should ever actually lose the lane. I think she has the tools to at least get her CS and not die unless maybe a champ is strong enough to zone her. She can get lifesteal + hexdrinker to deal with magic damage harass and start ramping up her farming but idk about Zed. I don't think I've done that matchup.
Osbeorn5 votesAs was mentioned earlier, that was not an adc mid.. it was apc tristana. So anyone complaining about ad itemization is in the wrong thread.
I think it's good to point out that lucian's win rate mid lane is sub 45%, so he's horrible there. There's not a single adc that has good win rate mid lane.
Tough Guy5 votesbecause of with champions like 
and 
, ADC mid has become even more viable with double ADC comps taking down Baron and towers in seconds.
DarkRitual3 votesDon't forget Ardent on Nidalee in the jungle so you can still stuff two of them into teamcomps!
Nevrankroaton4 votesAh yeah, the famous "ADC win midlane and mage don't do anything" myth.
There is very few mage that should ever loose to a tristana early game, even with warlord, her sustain isn't enough to survive well made rotation or poke by a mage. Tristana roaming is SUPER risky, she is a squishy target and if she use W to escape an interception, she lost time, mana and anyway to survive an other mistake other than loosing her flash.
Her itemisation is actually no problem for you as:
You will outdamage her early game, IE is a powerspike so she does good damage while you will have good scaling (except particular mage) right off the bat, the moment she has BF (for example), you will have a lost tome, boot and refillable potion to just have an easy time in lane. She rush hexdrinker? Enjoy her having a delayed powerspike and almost no dmg. She rush sustain? Enjoy her having no defensive option and almost no dmg.
ADC mid is a myth, very very few of them have strong win rate and are new in mid. Lucian and Corki are the two famous "ADC mid laner" who always have been strong here, hell, Corki is a "Weak early, heavy late game" magic dmg champ and Lucian has a lot of weakness already.
Truist me, I saw tristana jungle, I saw twitch top and I will tell you why they could ever win or not be trashed out: Because the people facing them either sucked or didn't punished them accordingly.
Please play a tristana mid, I will enjoy playing almost any mage against her easily. Please play an ADC jungle, even twitch, I will enjoy playing Xin, Lee sin, Reksai, Elise and so many jungler to just bully you in your jungle or counter gank you.
ADC scaling is incredible, that much is very true and ardent is still very annoying, but don't go with your ADC mid BS.
Acheron164 votesThis guy is right.
If you somehow die to an adc mid then you simply suck at being a mage, especially versus an adc with such delayed damage as Tristana: she needs to E you, then auto you 4 times, maybe jump in for a little extra burst, R for finishing off the fight. In that time you have time to do your entire rotation and GTFO before she's even done.
DuskDaUmbreon2 votesDepends on the mage, though. Some mages will actually struggle against marksmen. Not many, but some do...
Although any competent 
could instakill them.
Yes, I'm well aware that some of these aren't even mages, but shush. They're all champions that I've seen go mid. And most are meta.
Acheron163 votesThe vast majority of mages either outpokes adcs or can downright farm them like minions. Only a select few mages have a real hard time against adcs, and those usually also have difficulty against mages as well, making it a moot point.
notice me Sin pi3 votesonly thing rito needs to do regarding dis would be raising ADC core item prices. Apparently, they are a lot cheaper than mage core item prices are.
Of course, it will not solve everything, but it will still solve what the OP mentioned.
EROTIC RAID BOSS4 votesuhhh, adcs don't spike until at least 2 items, while mages spike after morellonomicon is complete...
My Waifu Vanilla2 votesAnd then they spike again in 1500 gold with Haunting Guise giving them a total of 39 MPen (near true damage to non-tanks and WILL be true damage with no MR blues on carries after pre-season).
Acheron164 votes[{quoted}](name=notice me Sin pi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BhEFKAEV,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2017-10-02T02:40:28.827+0000)
only thing rito needs to do regarding dis would be raising ADC core item prices. Apparently, they are a lot cheaper than mage core item prices are.
Of course, it will not solve everything, but it will still solve what the OP mentioned.
I agree that IE should be a litrle more expensive and Deathcap could stand to lose like 200G, but the vast majority of mages only requires Morellonomicon to spike hard.
ForeverLaxx3 votesYou mean ranged AD are going mid like they used to, before "the meta" was "discovered"?
Mage strength an aside, perhaps you should learn to be a better player. Swap lanes, play differently, focus on not dying, roam if your champion is capable, etc. After you die the first time, if you still play like they should be afraid of you then you're just playing poorly. Stop trying to change the game to fit your special little mold that you think it should/expect it to be.
Adapt to the opponent/situation. All you did was succumb to his strategy to throw you off.
zeskgames2 votesYou haven't experienced true pain until you've faced a Vayne mid. (Nam Flashbacks intensify)
EROTIC RAID BOSS4 voteshow is it possible to lose to vayne mid
DuskDaUmbreon2 votesI mean, you could use...uhm...
. Maybe.
...Scratch that, Soraka's actually a counter to Vayne, I think.
