Aatrox is an assassin with a revive, not a juggernaut

Moody P·Nov 11, 2018·4 votes·1,120 views

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When is the balance team going to at least attempt to solve Jag's mistake? You could at least make it tolerable if we're stuck with this awful rework.

17 Comments

ZephyrDrakeNov 11, 20186 votes

how is he an assassin? because you decided to stay right in front of him?

Moody PNov 11, 20182 votes

>you typed this and thought it was an argument

saltranNov 11, 20182 votes

Its not like your original post had any kind of argument aswell

Moody PNov 11, 20182 votes

there's no need to argue the obvious. aatrox's main contribution to his team being able to rush back line and wipe a carry in one rotation = assassin.

there's nothing about him that makes him a juggernaut but there's plenty of his playstyle that is clearly biased towards assassin/skirmisher with a hard leaning on the former until riot gives him the nerfs he's deserved for months now

Death by GlamourNov 11, 20182 votes

wouldn't that make him some sort of bruiser/diver or whatever they class it as nowadays

chipndip1Nov 11, 20182 votes

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there's no need to argue the obvious. aatrox's main contribution to his team being able to rush back line and wipe a carry in one rotation = assassin.

Vi's an assassin.

SithesisLordNov 12, 20182 votes

Guess that makes J4 an assassin too.

Hell, let´s just consider any champ that can gap close into the back line and blow it up quickly, even if that revolves around using Flash an assassin now.

A full stack Guinsoo's PTA Kayle is an assassin.

MarshbouyNov 11, 20183 votes

At absolute worst he is a diver.

He does not have any kind of invisibility. His mobility is extremely limited. He does not have good burst, unless he's extremely ahead he will never be able to one shot you. He needs at least a few seconds to get his whole combo off. He has too much sustain to be an assassin.

Sure you can build him high damage and deal a lot of damage, but that's not an assassin.

GaleWonderNov 11, 20183 votes

"Assassins specialize in infiltrating enemy lines with their unrivaled mobility to quickly dispatch high-priority targets." aatrox is clearly an assassin because hes too fast, cmon 2 dashes with a r that gives him 1 second of fast, rito please nerf his movement speed by 5.

HotarµNov 11, 20182 votes

2 short ranged dashes make someone into an Assassin? Huh, guess I didn't see those patch notes.

He's incredibly slow with tons of counterplay to his Q. But let me guess, an Aatrox in your game either played really well or snowballed so hard that he rolled your entire team and made you rage post this?

Moody PNov 11, 20181 votes

t o n s of counterplay. big lol, I'm gonna have a good laugh about this one with my mates

HotarµNov 11, 20183 votes

Well, I know it's not going to matter because you're either trolling / just so set in your ways that you don't care, but:

Q - Any dash, blink, or movement speed increase can dodge the sweetspots. Ahri Azir Braum Caitlyn Camille Corki Shen and probably 70+ other champions should have no problem disengaging or dodging his main source of damage.

W - Same as above. If you actually get hit by the first part, another dash can easily break the chain.

E - Dash can be interrupted, grounded effects and slows are especially effective. Cassiopeia Singed It also isn't a blink, so champions with walls or Veigar can stop him in his tracks.

R - Similar to Zilean/Kindred, wait out the ult. Again, it's a huge source of his power so either disengage or just wait after the 10 second window to kill him.

PhearBunnyNov 11, 20181 votes

Alistar is an assassin.

saltranNov 11, 20181 votes

This, but unironically.

PhearBunnyNov 11, 20181 votes

Zac is the strongest ADC in the game.

RagnaveilNov 12, 20181 votes

His only identity is his revive, and even then, its almost as worse as a GA revive on a tank. Q's damage is centralized on inconsistent edge placements (the last being not only the shortest, but is an actual AOE), meaning his W does nothing for damage (and the slow is terrible considering this is forced to be maxed last). His heal is non-existent once heal kill is bought. Passive is strong, but also inconsistent like Q (basically spam Q, but there's no time to weave this auto in without having to drop a second or two to auto, giving targets time to get out). Jag didn't mess this up. The balance team did. Jag only worked on the concept and idea of the kit, the balance team decides on everything esle.