Remind me why the fuck DRAVEN needed a buff.

Niyumi··11 votes·843 views

He already one shot people and won every lane, so why did he need a buff again? Gee, I wonder what skin he has coming.

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Astôlfo3 votes

Eh.

He's the most difficult ADC in the game as well as one of the most difficult champions overall. So his average winrate was 49% or so, which I think is still quite high. But his mains have 55-80% winrate or something of the sort on him. He didn't need buffs.

Niyumi2 votes

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... one of the most difficult champions overall.

HA! HAHAHA! Funny joke. Remind me how right clicking is, IN ANY WAY, hard. Combined with the highest sustain in the game, a 100% uptime AS/MS steroid, absurd damage (1000+ regularly mid-late game), braindead farming, a global ult, CC / peel, and items like Mercurial Scimitar and all that.

Lovelle1 votes

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HA! HAHAHA! Funny joke. Remind me how right clicking is, IN ANY WAY, hard. Combined with the highest sustain in the game, a 100% uptime AS/MS steroid, absurd damage (1000+ regularly mid-late game), braindead farming, a global ult, CC / peel, and items like Mercurial Scimitar and all that.

I personally find playing squishy, right-clickers pretty difficult. It's much easier to play ranged champs with CC and burst, or bruisers.

Niyumi1 votes

Ranged, burst and CC?

Caitlyn Draven Jhin Jinx Kalista Quinn Tristana Varus Vayne

Lovelle1 votes

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Ranged, burst and CC?

Caitlyn Draven Jhin Jinx Kalista Quinn Tristana Varus Vayne

I mean the kind that's cooldown reliant, like mages and ad casters like Jayce tend to have. Quinn and Vayne, in particular, have very small margins for error due to their short range and complete reliance on auto-attacks, but at least Vayne has Silver Bolts, invisibility, and that massive AD steroid. When Quinn gets hard-countered, there's nothing she can do about it except splitpush, kind of like Tryn. I'm surprised you didn't include MF, since she easily has the most burst out of all of them, barring Jhin and Vayne. Unlike most of the champs in the game, ADCs need time, or a gold lead, to build up that damage. They don't get it just from reaching level 6, like a Syndra or an Ahri. This means that they are much easier to shut down than other classes, especially with the game's current snowball mechanics.

Jhin and Caitlyn are strong due to their range and utility, whlle the others have varying degrees of usefulness, especially this season. Most mages are still more consistent as champions than pretty much every marksman. Once you remove towers from the equation, adcs aren't a very strong class at all. Back when Dominion was around, ADCs were by far the weakest class on the map, and most of them are lackluster at best on Twisted Treeline. Graves is the best one among them, but only because he's practically a ranged bruiser at this point.

M Schumacher2 votes

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He already one shot people and won every lane, so why did he need a buff again? Gee, I wonder what skin he has coming.

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Niyumi2 votes

So, I assume you're talking about the bolded part?

He (Draven)** already ** (implying he did this before the rework) one shot (past tense) people (plural of person, meaning more than one) and (conjunction, just continues the sentence without creating a run on, implies a second idea) won (also past tense)** every lane** (lane is the object here, and lane is in singular form because of the word every in front of it --- and "lane" in League is not always an object, can be a specific thing (so it's a named object), so even without "every," it could still be singular)

I mean, there aren't many people who are bigger grammar nazis than I am. But nice try.

M Schumacher2 votes

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So, I assume you're talking about the bolded part?

He (Draven)** already ** (implying he did this before the rework) one shot (past tense) people (plural of person, meaning more than one) and (conjunction, just continues the sentence without creating a run on, implies a second idea) won (also past tense)** every lane** (lane is the object here, and lane is in singular form because of the word every in front of it --- and "lane" in League is not always an object, can be a specific thing (so it's a named object), so even without "every," it could still be singular)

I mean, there aren't many people who are bigger grammar nazis than I am. But nice try.

The correct grammar would have been "He already one shots people and wins every lane".

Niyumi1 votes

In present tense, yes. But, in this case, I'm talking about what he did BEFORE the patch.

Mizaya1 votes

Until he becomes a top tier ADC I don't see why it's such a big problem

Winning lane bot is a joke right now if you don't absolutely stomp btw. If your jungler is behind enemy jungler say goodbye to your lead.

LordGeovanni1 votes

Thats right he does likely have a skin comming out even though they did well with draven draven people just dont want to put any work into their carry champions

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