Oh look, ADCs are literal gods.

Niyumi··3 votes·1,320 views

We're goinna call them weak and then buff them -- we care about our game beyond money though guys! Not like ADCs are the most profitable class or anything and are intentionally kept broken because of that... nah.

Sure is fun to be right clicked on and take 700-1000 damage twice a second no matter how much armor I build, while said braindead clicker sustains more than literally any champ in the game ever has -- yet, we've nerfed Vlad into the ground because of his sustain, and removed sustain from AP champs as a whole, nerfed champions because of their sustain... yet ADCs are exempt from all the rules.

At least they have all the counterplay in the world! You either:

  • A: Go nowhere near them so that they can't hit you.

  • B: CC them until they die.

  • C: Kill them so fast they can't even react.

or, the most likely scenario,

  • D: Die, since you can't out damage their healing and you can't build items to stop their damage at all.

Really gotta wonder: If a champion's kit is so retardedly broken that the only way to fight them is to entirely prevent them from using their kit, then wouldn't that kit be too strong? Wouldn't it make sense to nerf it or rework it?

But, you know, ADCs work very, very hard for their damage (trust me, right clicking is a fucking art form, and most ADCs develop severe carpal tunnel and stress on their tendons from all the effort they put in), and deserve to out-assassinate assassins, out-draintank draintanks, out-burst mages, and generally be the strongest, most reliable champions in the game. And hey, almost all of them have some form of mobility, CC or both!

Oh how I love this game and company. I can sure tell they put the quality of their game above all else.

28 Comments

Its All Skillzz7 votes

except adcs are none of these things. lol go play an adc and try to get in range to AA anyone. watch how fast you explode.

Niyumi1 votes

You mean... when you build glass cannon you die fast? Welp, class must be useless.

Except, you know, 30-40% lifesteal makes you into a draintank and no one but the burstiest bursters can kill you.

Daizumi1 votes

Yeah they can get life steal but... that wont work when they get killed by Oh idk, Rengar one shot, Khazix, Malphite ult and CC'd, Malz ult, Syndra ult, The enemy support Zyra, the Camille, Graves, by a freaking tree???, I can go on all day.

Penns1 votes

Thats honestly why I dont play adc (except for Vayne, that grill is basically an assassin tho lol.) Try to get in range to aa, which is your job? Well, Xin is in E range, Malph is in ult range, Zed is in ult range, Vi is in ult range,... everything is in their "you die" range.

Oatz5 votes

??? someone got stomped by a Jinx who was allowed to afk farm for 40 minutes.

Niyumi1 votes

No, it's every ADC that doesn't feed their ass off -- and even when they feed, they still do 400-500 damage an auto.

Oatz2 votes

False. According to your logic, a **feeding ** ADC can 3 shot a mid laner (1500~ HP) with only autos.

Niyumi1 votes

Read what I said carefully.

"... even when they feed, they still do 400-500 an auto" -- 500 x 3 = 1500.

Oatz3 votes

Isn't that what I said? Or did I become illiterate after reading your post?

Mecha MaIphite4 votes

take 700-1000 damage twice a second no matter how much armor I build

Oh look, Sciela's making up bullshit again.

Niyumi1 votes

Yeah, lemme go pull up the several recordings I have and show them to you again. You go read the numbers for me.

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Please tell us you actually built armor instead of just some damage items and maybe a ruby crystal, didn't pick a fight with an ADC several levels over you, and played properly.

Because that is what happened in your last "example" of ADC superiority.

Niyumi1 votes

Try a Rammus with >500 armor and 4k health dying in half a second to a Yi, or an MF killing a full armor / HP Rammus in three ticks of her ult, or an Ashe out-sustaining an Illaoi who ulted 6 people... ADCs are beyond broken.

PermabannedGaren2 votes

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Yeah, lemme go pull up the several recordings I have and show them to you again. You go read the numbers for me.

All the recordings do is show how bad you are at the game friend. You were wise to cower from your thread whining about Diana of all champions after I exposed your inadequacy, but foolish to continue making these threads.

Niyumi1 votes

Yeah, going in on a Diana who has <20% health when she's in front of a wall I can stun her on is me being bad. Forgive me for expecting an ASSASSIN to die when that low -- was silly of me.

And yet, you're still implying Diana isn't broken. Okay kiddo.

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Except she's not an assassin.

She's a Diver.

Now shoo with your nonsense, thinking you can solo a Diver as a tank that didn't even build tanky.

PermabannedGaren2 votes

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Yeah, going in on a Diana who has <20% health when she's in front of a wall I can stun her on is me being bad. Forgive me for expecting an ASSASSIN to die when that low -- was silly of me.

And yet, you're still implying Diana isn't broken. Okay kiddo.

She would have died that low if you played properly, despite her pretty significant lead.

Unfortunately you played badly. Oh, and despite her having less HP than you relative to her total health pool, her total health pool was quite a bit higher than yours, so the difference in health wasn't actually that significant. At level 10 Diana has 1,286 health. This Diana took five health per level seals, giving her 66.5 health. She also had two Doran's Rings, each giving her 60 health, bringing her total health up to 1,472.5. You, as Poppy, had no health at all in your runes or items at level 9, giving you merely 1,147 health. Judging by your health bars (each marking indicates 100 health), you had slightly over 1,000 health when you wall slammed her, she had about 650.

She also wasn't below 20% health. It was closer to half. You literally posted the evidence, so I know what happened friend, stop exaggerating.

You also built poorly. Why didn't you just finish your Warrior enchant instead of buying a useless mana crystal and a cloth armour? You might have killed her despite your poor play then.

So basically, you jumped on someone who had a level up on you, much better items than you, had more than half of your health, didn't itemization properly, and worst of all you played it poorly by completely wasting your W (allowing her to get a double ult on you). Does this make sense to you my son? Do you understand why you lost?

When you say broken, what do you mean? As in, a poorly designed champion? She is that. But if you mean overpowered, no, she certainly isn't that.

MaeDoSan2 votes

This is every tank ever , they hate adcs so much they will focus them first everytime, doesn't even matter if they have been feeding the whole game and aren't the main source of damage .....

I Lost My Morty2 votes

Let's not talk about the bruisers and assassins that can be 0/4 and still flash and one shot a fed adc. How about you play your role and enable your team to do damage. you have an adc too Caitlyn

Niyumi1 votes

When you build glass cannon, you die fast. Just kind of what happens.

But let's not talk about the ADCs that can feed their ass off all game, be 0/8 or something like that, farm up two items, and then hard carry and end the game 15/8.

Let's not talk about the ADCs that eliminate their one and only weakness because of the absurd amounts of lifesteal in the game.

Let's not talk about the ADCs that do more burst damage than assassins and mages.

Let's not talk about the ADCs that literally have no counterplay.

Randomonium3 votes

None of those things happen. ADCs only become useful at 4+ items, hence why we are seeing so many other classes being played in the ADC spot. You can be a fed ADC and still get destroyed by pretty much anyone 1v1. ADCs as a class are more team dependent than any other class in the game. If their team isn't actively investing resources to keep the ADC alive then the ADC is useless.

Seriously, go watch any high level streamers. It's hilarious when the 3/7 maokai can kill the 7/3 ADC and still walk away with near full health.

Truly Prideful2 votes

With all of the posts you make claiming ADCs to be so broken you should just main them. Ride the broken role to challenger, let us know how it goes.

Niyumi1 votes

I do play ADCs -- I'm a fill main. ADC is absurdly boring though, and feels like cheating. Always win lane when I do ADC, get massively fed, but you can't carry garbage teams alone as a squishy.

Truly Prideful1 votes

Wait, you don't two-shot everyone while draintanking the entire enemy team? Your first post clearly states that ADCs do that, maybe it's not quite that easy if you can't win if you're that fed.

Niyumi1 votes

Oh I two shot everyone that isn't a tank, and I can take anyone in a 1v1 (even 1v2s if I dodge things properly) because of all my lifesteal... but when you're the only person doing well on your team, the entire enemy team will ignore everyone else and dive you so that you can't carry the teamfight, and then kill the rest of your team... yeah, you can't really do a lot there. Peel doesn't exist in my ELO.

Caedmar1 votes

Here, you think that's bad? Let me show you a full lethality + Black Cleaver Miss Fortune ult at the 40 minute mark. And then let me bathe in the salty tears.

Seriously though that kind of scenario that you're describing is extremely rare in actual games, and here's why:

  1. It takes a long time to get to that point in the game. A long, long, long fucking time. For pretty much the entire laning phase you feel approximately as powerful as a paper tiger. You can't kill shit. If you try to eat any damage at all you're gonna die. You have hardly any sustain (what, one potion and the 3% life steal from item 1055 ? pffft), no burst damage, no attack speed. You're basically a fucking joke. Ok, you hit a teeny powerspike on first back, if you have farmed well enough to get a item 1038 and then another one when you finish your attack speed item and item 3031. But you really have to hit two or maybe three completed items before you start to be actually powerful. This is because, unlike other kinds of champions, you don't have a true spell rotation. Yeah, you have a couple of utility spells, tiny little bits of CC, micro dashes, traps, pokes, or whatever. But Brand or Veigar you are not. You can't just shit damage onto people, you rely on your auto attacks, which means you have to buy enough items to empower them. That takes time. Meanwhile...

  2. There's about a million-and-fucking-one things you can do to stop that process dead in its tracks. Facing an enemy Vayne and don't want her to snowball into a demigod? Play Zyra support, or Caitlyn ADC, and poke and bully the everloving shit out of her. Keep her from farming, keep her from getting near you, keep her from doing anything except sit pitifully under turret praying for the minions to come to her. Control the wave properly, and deny CS. Alternatively, have your jungler and midlane come down for 4-man ganks every time the enemy ADC gets past the middle-point of the lane. Trust me, I hate nothing more than getting constantly gang banged and turret-dived from 5 minutes in until the end of laning phase. It's horrifying, and it keeps me weak until basically forever. Or just have a support Blitzcrank so you can kill them every...what's the cool down on his Q, like 19 seconds? I've played it enough and it usually works wonders.

  3. Yes, ADC's are late-game champs. That's why they are called attack-damage CARRIES. Once they get the chance to build their items, they WILL do well. What you have to do is keep them from getting those items for as long as possible, focus them down in team fights. And yes, there a multiple strategies for this that actually work. Here's one: item 3075 You know what else works well if there's a lot of life steal? Grievous wounds items item 3123 item 3033 and item 3165. Nothing says , "fuck you" to someone building item 3072 like a big fat passive that basically makes all healing a joke. My sincere condolences, Soraka mains. CC works well too, as mentioned. So does burst damage, despite what you say. Nobody can life steal through a full Veigar rotation. And God help the ADC who stands next to Annie when she drops Tibbers. You, my friend, are royally screwed. There's also a fed Nasus, about whom i have nightmares. Oh, you want to try to position and kite? Here's a nice wither, and a spirit fire, and an Q with about a trillion stacks, and oh look was there an ADC there? I'm just saying there's a lot of champions built into this game with the ability to terrorize ADC's unless their team is hella good at peel, and the ADC is hella good at positioning. Camille Yasuo Vi come to mind especially, but really any of the assassin/diver types can do the trick. That's what they're there for.

Your options really are

A) play a champion with better range, like my boy Xerath or Jayce B) CC them. Correct, and it's not anywhere near as hard as you make it sound C) Burst them down...which describes the play style of about half the current junglers, and most of the midlaners in meta. or D) Die because you didn't do anything to stop their slow build to power in the early game, haven't gained enough objectives or map control early on (because let's face it, tons of League games are over WAAAAY to quickly nowadays) to basically trap them inside their base well before they get powerful at about minute 35-40, and haven't picked a good team comp.

Niyumi1 votes

{quoted}

  1. It takes a long time to get to that point in the game.

Back and buy a BF + Zeal + AS boots, bam. You can fight anyone that doesn't one shot you now.

You have hardly any sustain

Warlord's + Masteries + Doran's = 25%+ lifesteal at level 1.

  1. Yes, ADC's are late-game champs.

If 10-15 mins is late game, sure.

Your options really are

A) play a champion with better range, like my boy Xerath or Jayce

So go nowhere near them. We've covered this.

B) CC them. Correct, and it's not anywhere near as hard as you make it sound

Now, if a champion's kit is so absurdly strong that the literal only way to fight them is to entirely prevent the use of their kit... then isn't that kit broken and in need of nerfs / reworks?

C) Burst them down...which describes the play style of about half the current junglers, and most of the midlaners in meta.

Yeah, except they burst harder than almost any burst champ.


Wanna try again?

Aquafuge1 votes

Dude, ADC's aren't that bad ass. I played Bard support for a Caitlin and denied a jinx farm and kills...late game i 1v1'd jinx and won. If ADC's were as unstoppable as what you say how would that even be possible. It probably was an inexperienced jinx but for being " a literal god " even an inexperienced one should have shredded me.

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