new fiora's broken

ScarnMichaelScar··5 votes·1,231 views

sorry. she is. ad scaling %max health true damage that heals you is extremely strong on its own.

but now, she's got a low cooldown spammable q at max rank to hit these vitals consistently, a ripost that stops any damage/cc in the line, and stuns if you caught a disable. her e is even slightly better because it has a slow, and a guaranteed crit at low level.

"b-b-b-but vitals aren't easy to hit!"

yeah they are. her dash range is pretty decent, let alone the actual stab itself. AND the vital range is pretty wide.

a fiora with 250 ad can expect to not only hit someone with 200 damage on her q, but if it's a vital she'll also do 5.5% of his max health in true damage, get a speedboost, and a minor heal.

q r e q and unless you're really bad they're dead.

she can melt tanks by hitting their vitals, ingore/return cc, slow/crit, and aoe heal herself to survive a 2v1 with 60% or more of your hp and walk away with a double kill.

inb4 low level/smurf if you don't just see how broken fiora is in terms of NUMBERS alone, you're nuts.

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John Do31 votes

Go AD Malzy into AR and thornmail, that'll put an end to it.

Summonerrr 11 votes

I have to agree that the vitals aren't as difficult to hit as they should be. With decent practice, even the typical old counters like Teemo and Jayce have been having trouble against her, not even because she can chase and trade properly, but because with practice getting in range good enough to hit the vitals is NOT as difficult as it was intended to be.

An easy fix IMO would be that putting a shorter timer/shuffler on the direction of the vitals would be nice, as in it's current state the window of opportunity to get a vital shot off is WAY too long in relation to how quickly it can be done, both by the average and the skilled player.

Weiner the Pooh1 votes

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I have to agree that the vitals aren't as difficult to hit as they should be. With decent practice, even the typical old counters like Teemo and Jayce have been having trouble against her, not even because she can chase and trade properly, but because with practice getting in range good enough to hit the vitals is NOT as difficult as it was intended to be.

An easy fix IMO would be that putting a shorter timer/shuffler on the direction of the vitals would be nice, as in it's current state the window of opportunity to get a vital shot off is WAY too long in relation to how quickly it can be done, both by the average and the skilled player.

Her vitals are easy to hit once you practice and learn how? Well that's op, oh no wait that's how things work.

ScarnMichaelScar1 votes

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Her vitals are easy to hit once you practice and learn how? Well that's op, oh no wait that's how things work.

yeah, well unlike most other champions, fiora's vitals do %max health true damage that SCALES BY 1% FOR EVERY 110 AD YOU HAVE.

item 3074 item 3072 item 3078 item 3035 one q onto a vital spot instantly chunks someone for 5% of their health in just true damage. now toss in the 200 from her q, 400 from her next empowered auto, and then another 600 from her AA's from her e. and if that wasn't bad enough, her q is on a 4 second cd if she hits you with it, and can just hit r, AA you from any direction for 5% true damage, then q to your other side for ANOTHER 5%

unless you roflstomp her extremely hard early and exclusively use your team's ccs on her, she's going to eventually just start dominating teamfights thanks to her ult, and general disregard for anything tanky now.

Dr Poro1 votes

"Play champion X and you have a chance." Seriously, balance is not based on possibly being beaten by a single champion or strategy. She beats most matchups too consistently and it shows in her winrate. It doesn't matter that much because she's currently permabanned, but it would be nice to have a slot open for other champs (like your own counters), because on top of her, Riot managed to make all the 4 reworked juggernauts OP.

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