If Fiora is supposed to be a hypercarry why does she have lane sustain

i mean so do a lot of hyper carries, or champs who are supposed to by hyper carries (not sure if she counts but im putting her anyway)

Because her hypercarry is still best as a solo duelist and splitpusher? She still struggles immensely against teams because even with parry, there's more than one thing she needs to parry, she's squishy as fuck, Grievous murders her, and getting off a good heal is unreliable because Locket/Redemption/Exhaust means it's going to be extremely hard to pop 3-4 Vitals (which is the only heal worth getting).

Her lane sustain is reliant on her hitting her passive. And even then, it's not that much.

The sustain is not as much of an issue as how much of a bully she can be early on.

I don't have an issue with her lane sustain.

I think what she needs to have hit is a base damage or two, and then she needs to have ACTUAL MANA COSTS. I swear I have never seen a fiora run out of mana.

She is one of the better champs to ban in top lane. By far the most picked top laner right now.

Not sure sustain is the issue. She is just top lane meta right now and a strong champ.

She has a couple counters like pantheon, swain, and kayle. So I guess just learn them or ban her.

She's a melee top laner, and if you don't have sustain as a melee top laner, you're a shit champ. Pretty much the only melee top laner to ever break this rule is Jax simply because he has no much else going for him.

It's not about just sustain, it's also about the fact she actually has good trades early on. Compare her to Nasus which has absolute trash trading and has to use his trading tool to farm up early/mid if he wants to be relevant lategame, and we see an obvious pattern why she's so good in comparison.

Fiora's healing sustain sucks quite alot

her early game is supposed to be weak. you're supposed to keep one side of you away from her so she can't use her passive.

Now if that side is one of the 2/4 that face her, then you just don't trade or go near her.

well her earlygame IS weak, she has somewhat sustain but it is really really small, and her passive damage early on is really meh. Fiora earlygame just makes Little trades, pokes if a good weakspot passive shows up. She really does not do a lot earlygame. It really is like fencing with her, or well, against her. You just go in a bit, poke just a bit, then when you hit 6 you can go for some actual engages.

Her late game scaling certainly isn't bad by any means, but she's definitely no where near a hyper-carry.

old fiora was a hyper carry, new and current fiora is FAR from that.

Fiora is a splitpushing duelist. He's NOT a hypercarry.

It is pretty weak. It heals like 30 hp. She has tools so you can't face roll into her, but she is pretty weak early. She can split push well late, but there's a lot of champs that do it better and she only can split push because of hydra. Her team fighting ability is also super weak, like one of the weakest in the game.

So she's a good late game carry (not hyper carry) with tools to not get dominated in laning.

Compare that to tryndamere who is really strong level 1 and 2 and post 6 for all ins (and also is a fiora counter that beats her pretty much always). He is considered to suck early but is a God late game and can solo win by map pressure alone.

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Nerf her over all damage a bit, and make her ult deal two extra vital procs if she hits all four of them and killing a champion without hitting all four should refresh it's CD by a small amount if she gets at least one ult vital.

Her AoE heal is too much if she builds so much life steal.

Her Sustain and Health Regen don't bother me, it's just our hard she can abuse some match ups.