PSA: You can carry as a support

Koechophe··10 votes·1,279 views

^Title. A good support can effectively carry games at all elos. People are always saying that supports are too team dependent, but they fail to realize just how vital and important good support is. Supports are arguably the hardest role because they must function with less effective gold and experience, which is no easy task. For this reason, most supports in lower elos are effectively less useful, meaning if you ARE useful, you turn the game into a 4v5. Here are a few things to remember.

-As a support, you need to adapt to your team. Don't try to change the way your team plays, enhance it. Make plays that you know they will follow up on, and if your ADC is extremely passive all the time, don't blame them for ignoring your aggression.

-Learn how to be reactive. Most supports try to make proactive plays: grabbing, harassing, etc. However, most of the support skills in the game are actually more effective when used reactively. Skill shots all work better when being chased then chasing. Wait for the enemies to drain spells, then react by harassing and attacking in the aftermath when they're weak. Proactivity isn't bad, but most of the time it's what gets you into trouble.

-Learn to shotcall. Most often, people will actually listen to the support when it comes to shotcalling. Some games they won't, but if you know how to make good calls, it will greatly benefit you.

-Learn when to ward. 9/10 supports die most often because they're out of position trying to ward. Dying to pop a ward is never worth it.

-It is impossible for any role to carry on their own. This game is too team dependent. Unless the enemy team is just as bad as your team, one person cannot carry. Carrying games alone is a myth. You can, however, make a huge difference and be the reason that your team wins instead of losing. Supports can do that just as well as any other role. An alistar who tanks massive amounts of damage can win. A Bard who catches 3 of the enemies into his ult and stuns the other 2 wins rounds. A thresh who grabs a vayne in the middle of the teamfight and locks her down carries. A Janna who splits the fight in half with her ult and blows away anyone who tries to attack the adc can win rounds. Carrying on your own is impossible, and no role can do that. But carrying your team to victory by outplaying the enemy is possible for supports, just as well as any other role.

I've played exclusively support this season, and have about a 70% win ranked (and I'm not that brilliant of a player, tbh). Supports can win games just as well as any other role.

#Support4life

15 Comments

WhiperSnapers4 votes

I like this, but I think you should remove the word easily from the first line.

Koechophe3 votes

Agreed. Changed to "effectively". Think it sells the point better.

Succubús GF4 votes

Supports easily control the way the battle will flow. Jann - Peel queen If something is turning wrong. Ult and leave with team. Annie "support" for those who can never trust a shitty adc so they can take control and become apc. Sona is amazing teamfight wise. That ult if done correctly can be an instant ace if the ally team isn't brain dead. I actually love supporting because I still feel as if I am carrying sometimes

Wolfbanez122 votes

i agree there are amazing supports but its all depended on how the team does the enemy has a support to so if your team is behind they are doing better then you.

Wolfbanez123 votes

yes and no ive said this in another thread supports can carry its 3 times harder then any other role as you need to feed your team with help support and safety via wards or roam or utility but if the team does not know how to use it properly you as the support just have to sit and watch and try your best to mend a lost game. so ether you got really luck or you using the dynamic que and thats not solo and proves nothing.

Koechophe4 votes

I've played ~5 games with dynamic, and the rest were solo, out of a total of 70 ish. It's not luck. I've won a lot of games where if the opponent's support had been our support instead, we would've lost. I become tanky and/or bursty by racking up assists and money from gp5 items.

If you often feel like the team isn't responding to your plays properly, you need to adjust how you play. Look at how your team plays and be reactive to them, so that they WILL respond the same way. The most important thing to be as a support is adaptable. If your team is passive, counter-engage for them and passively harass so that they are safe. If they're extremely aggressive, both try to shotcall and try to follow up.

Wolfbanez124 votes

first i want to ask rank second im in bronze 2 so ya shot calling is out of the question and yes it is luck do you not under stand its down to which team has the better premade at this point?

Koechophe4 votes
  1. gold. Nothing terribly impressive.
  2. Shotcalling still works in bronze. Not all the time, not even most of the time, but it helps.
  3. Luck is an excuse. Yes, people get bad luck. No, that doesn't mean you're helpless in all of this.
TheLittlestLulu3 votes

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first i want to ask rank second im in bronze 2 so ya shot calling is out of the question and yes it is luck do you not under stand its down to which team has the better premade at this point?

Honestly you have a really shitty attitude, and I wouldn't be surprised if that had a major impact on you not being able to climb with support.

TheLittlestLulu3 votes

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yes and no ive said this in another thread supports can carry its 3 times harder then any other role as you need to feed your team with help support and safety via wards or roam or utility but if the team does not know how to use it properly you as the support just have to sit and watch and try your best to mend a lost game. so ether you got really luck or you using the dynamic que and thats not solo and proves nothing.

I got to diamond 4 playing support Lulu, and I always queue solo.

I don't understand why people have have it so far in their heads that support is somehow inferior to every other role in regards to the outcome of a match.

Wolfbanez121 votes

where is the supports damage coming from? teamates and if they are doing crapy how can a support carry? they cant clear as day gj on getting to diamond its luck or you never started in bronze but saying support is equal to all roles in none sence your utility thats it and if your team is behind your useless.

Sariat12 votes

I agree, but that doesn't make me feel any less useless when my team throws or someone gets caught out.

Koechophe4 votes

That's the same for every role, not just support.

Weasel Kensei2 votes

Here I am support in bot lane keeping my ADC alive... our score is 2v9 at 7 minutes... our ADC has the 2, their jg and mid have the 9... BUT I CAN CARRY CAUSE I CAN MAKE DER PLAYS.... yeah right.

I used to think that, and love playing support.... loved.. but mostly my team either feeds into oblivion in the first 10 minutes or we were probably going to win anyway. Id say me playing well as a support and getting my ADC fed and they go on to do well is about one in every three games that it matters. The other two are often decided by snowballs in other lanes.

So my massive support impact is only good for 1/3 of the time. Iv been in ranked and had my ADC go 0/3/0 in the first 6 minutes... doing stupid shit like flashing under enemy towers to try and kill enemy ADCs with 200 hp at level 2. Stepping on Caits traps to clear them when Blitz is MIA. Pushing the lane up the the turret over and over when the enemy jg is camping bot... cause they push up to the turret over and over. When they feed, Im not going to wrack up a ton of gold from assist.... so theyre usesless, and the only thing I can do is try to mitigate their feednig and try not to get bursted down now cause of the feeding.

I STILL cant help the situation if mid or top loses and we get their laner ganking us every 4 minutes.

Im sorry, but youre one of those people who gets lucky and sands up and says "We can all be just like me" except we cant, not everyone can win the lottery... it actually doesnt work that way.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Yes, they are team dependent, but they can always adapt and/or lead people to do certain things.

If leading doesn't work, then adapt. If adapting gets you nowhere, lead. What many people don't know on supports is that a lot of things are solely based on situation, so you can't just pick just one way and think that it will work every time.

Gonna be blunt here, but you have to think, not just pull off fancy mechanics. Every role has to think, but as supports more efforts go into thought than just mechanics.

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