I dont feel like playing anymore when I see Zed mid...

Well the BotRK nerfs have compelled Zed to get lifesteal later, meaning it's easier to bully him out of lane. Unfortunately we may see him building Death's Dance early if Rito keeps buffing it. The damage amp was compensation that allowed them to justify nerfing Fizz's basic ability damage after already removing DFG, but Fizz players STILL bitched.

[{quoted}](name=Frozen Beauty,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mzEQuGkM,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-01-07T22:47:58.772+0000)

Mid is my second best role, but I've given it up temporarily because of the surge in Zed and Fizz picks. Neither of them are fun to lane against, and there's no such thing as bullying them out of lame, especially Zed. I've had way too many instances of where I'm stomping on Zed, zoning him away from the minions, but he's still able to farm effectively with his Q and W+E. His roam, split push, assassination, and poke are all too good. I don't find Zed to be that overpowered, maybe slightly overtuned especially with his latest buff, but he's oppressive and anti-fun. My biggest peeve is how he forces you to build Hourglass to survive against him, which Riot nerfed harshly with a heavy price increase. I'd say that's like, 75% of the reason why Zed is so powerful now: Hourglass just isn't easy to obtain, and you're suffering trying to obtain it.

Fizz, on the other hand, is an entirely different story. Trickster's ridiculously effective (near invulnerability, slows, aoe burst, gap closer/escape, short cooldown). You don't really have much time to take the opportunity and punish him for using Trickster, because it'll be back up soon. Power needs to be removed from Trickster in favor of his Q and W. That, and the 20% damage amplification on his R is simply overkill. Fizz can easily and quickly eliminate non-tanks without his ult. The only reason I could see it having 20% damage amp, is so that he can have a chance to assassinate tanky targe ts which is just silly.

The damage amp was done so fizz relies on his ult since they removed anlarge.portion from his main abilities

[{quoted}](name=Frozen Beauty,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mzEQuGkM,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-01-07T22:47:58.772+0000)

Mid is my second best role, but I've given it up temporarily because of the surge in Zed and Fizz picks. Neither of them are fun to lane against, and there's no such thing as bullying them out of lame, especially Zed. I've had way too many instances of where I'm stomping on Zed, zoning him away from the minions, but he's still able to farm effectively with his Q and W+E. His roam, split push, assassination, and poke are all too good. I don't find Zed to be that overpowered, maybe slightly overtuned especially with his latest buff, but he's oppressive and anti-fun. My biggest peeve is how he forces you to build Hourglass to survive against him, which Riot nerfed harshly with a heavy price increase. I'd say that's like, 75% of the reason why Zed is so powerful now: Hourglass just isn't easy to obtain, and you're suffering trying to obtain it.

Fizz, on the other hand, is an entirely different story. Trickster's ridiculously effective (near invulnerability, slows, aoe burst, gap closer/escape, short cooldown). You don't really have much time to take the opportunity and punish him for using Trickster, because it'll be back up soon. Power needs to be removed from Trickster in favor of his Q and W. That, and the 20% damage amplification on his R is simply overkill. Fizz can easily and quickly eliminate non-tanks without his ult. The only reason I could see it having 20% damage amp, is so that he can have a chance to assassinate tanky targets which is just silly.

:shrug: I bully zeds and fizz out of mid all the time...as Chogoth.

Except Talon has to get ahead and build pretty much full damage to assassinate. He's also much less safe than zed and yasuo depending on how you use his ultimate. Of the three I'd say he's got the crappiest early game. A meh to amazing mid game(depending on if you're getting fed or not) But his late game is also probably the worst of the 3 while Zed and yas seem to be strong at all points in the game. I won't lie, I'm a talon main because I think he's fun to play. So I'm trying my best to not make this biased. I'd rather have a talon on the enemy team over yas and zed any day though..As for champs that make me want to afk? Leblanc is definitely one of the main ones. Once again, if my comment struck you as biased.. I'm sorry lol.

I don't understand why anyone would want to pick Talon over any other AD assassin. What does he do better than anyone else?

Sounds like riven XD

These champs will always be picked because people find their kits fun. Lee, Zed, Riven, Vayne, Ezreal, Yasuo, Thresh. Doesn't matter how weak they are, the only way people will stop playing them is if they are litterally impossible to play.

[{quoted}](name=Guy Fox Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mzEQuGkM,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2016-01-08T04:27:36.646+0000)

I don't feel like playing when I see a Katarina on the enemy team, my god does it annoy the Sh*t out of me to play against her. Theres some champs people dont like to play against, Teemos annoying AF, so is Malzahar, Katarina, Leblanc, and a butt load of other champions.

I don't know, why you feel the need to make a post on the boards about you disliking a champion. Just to dislike

Katarina? The champion who looses mid to nearly every matchup in the game? I can think of worse matchups.