If you ever need to buff Master Yi (you probably don't though).

Jesus is Savior··19 votes·1,590 views

There is actually a neat change you could make. You know how his meditate pauses his ult timer and his wuju (E) timer?

Make it pause ALL buffs. (Although this would be really hard to code, because you would still want de-buffs and cooldowns to tick down, otherwise you would run into the strange use-case of him not wanting to use it while debuffed/things on cd, which would feel wrong).

I use my ghost summoner and trigger my lethal tempo keystone, and then meditate mid-fight? Pause their timers.

Why would this be a good idea? Because currently, if I am in the middle of my ult, I have to choose between extending my ult and losing my other buffs. Because while my W will extend my ult, it won't extend my ghost or my keystone which may be triggered at the exact same time.

(This is just an idea - I don't expect this to actually get implemented because I think Yi is fine right now balance-wise. But in the future, if his winrate ever dropped..... This is an idea.)

EDIT: this may not actually be that hard to code (or revert) if you limit it to just a few core buffs, eg: red buff/blue buff/keystones/ghost. And you could always add a couple more every patch if you felt there were more "core" things Yi made use of often.

23 Comments

Somebody Love Me14 votes

Honestly, this is my clear bias, but I would rather they stop buffing the uninteractive, stat check champs. They need to nerf all the busted shit first before adding anymore possible problems. Same goes for Trynd.

HalcyonDweller5 votes

That's a cool idea, but I'm still worried about Yi being too much of a stat-check. I guess I'm in favor but I also hope that Riot doesn't just make him OP.

AwesomeGuyDj2 votes

Honestly i feel yi could use a rework or mini rework like kindred or reksai. He's a stat check-y champion imo.

HalcyonDweller2 votes

Yeah, IMO he's kind of garbage in his current state. I really wish my junglers would stop picking him in ranked.

greekvandaL1 votes

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That's a cool idea, but I'm still worried about Yi being too much of a stat-check. I guess I'm in favor but I also hope that Riot doesn't just make him OP.

You have adcs in their current state FOR PATCHES. And you are worried about Yi beeign a stat check? god.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

You are using a technique called "whataboutism." And it's very poor arguing.

ADCs are a completely separate issue, and one that I feel just as strongly about. Them being OP is no excuse for Yi to be allowed to be OP as well.

I have capacity in my brain to care about more than one problem at once, don't you too? Or am I just superhuman? /s

Teridax682 votes

I agree with this, and overall I think it might still be worth implementing the OP's idea, but as a power shift rather than a buff. Currently most of Yi's kit rewards him for doing one thing, i.e. autoattacking, and that doesn't really lead to the most interesting, varied or interactive gameplay. On the flipside, there are plenty of opportunities for him to be more interesting, as Alpha Strike could be the perfect tool for split-second dodges if it were made more consistent, and similarly Meditate could have more high-level use beyond just acting as an autoattack reset. I think it would work with Yi's theme if there were more of an emphasis on him pausing combat momentarily to block or dodge key abilities, particularly since it would put him much more in line with modern melee carries.

HalcyonDweller2 votes

Yeah, I'm onboard and all, I just want it done in a way that makes sure Yi's opponents still have agency.

Onandaga2 votes

My idea for him would be having his E and Ult duration paused while in alpha strike just like in meditate. A small buff but a nice quality of life change none the less.

Jerry SeinfeId2 votes

How about we fix his alpha strike first?

ZeroAgainst1 votes

give his w and q high ap scaling would be amazing totally fun to play against and new to the game! same with trynd

Troll for Trump1 votes

That's just going to be disgusting with supports.

Bârd2 votes

Not in most cases.

Seeing as he can't actually do anything with the buffs, it would just kinda be "ok" in most situations.

The only ones that might get out of hand are Kayle R, Taric R, and Morg E.

(Maybe ghost in URF)

Andrey03452 votes

The only ones that might get out of hand are Kayle R, Taric R, and Morg E.

Those are strong but he isn't really doing much during that period + with kayle/taric you can still cc him, while with morg E you can break shield/kill him so it isn't overpowered, yi wouldn't become broken from that buff.

Jesus is Savior1 votes

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Not in most cases.

Seeing as he can't actually do anything with the buffs, it would just kinda be "ok" in most situations.

The only ones that might get out of hand are Kayle R, Taric R, and Morg E.

(Maybe ghost in URF)

Yeah I don't think it should count for invulnerability. That would be kinda broken.

Need Gold 4 Tent1 votes

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That's just going to be disgusting with supports.

Kayle R now lasts longer than Trynd ult huehuehue

Modl Ryden l1 votes

They have something like this already for Xin Zhao's W, Wind Becomes Lightning. His W takes 0.6 seconds to channel. While it channels all his current buffs are also given a 0.6 second extension.

Red Wreckage1 votes

Yi is fine right now?

close to being a troll pick, so very dependent on his team being able to fight 4v5 for at least 4 seconds....

Yup, very definition of "fine right now"

Andrey03451 votes

He isn't that bad, he got pretty high damage so it mostly comes down to proper positioning. Really good players do pretty well with him so the champion isn't useless. There are weaker champs.

P0IS0N IVY1 votes

I didn't even know meditate stopped those timers. That just sounds like it shouldn't happen.

Jesus is Savior1 votes

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I didn't even know meditate stopped those timers. That just sounds like it shouldn't happen.

It was a buff they added a while ago. It's intentional. It was one of their "this might make him not complete garbage at high ELO, but won't make him curbstomp in low ELO" buffs.

AmenPerson1 votes

Wait, Yi's mediate pauses his ult and wuju blade? Huh, never knew.

ShiniXII1 votes

no dont buff master yi or rework him.

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