So I finally encountered one of those "invisible Nidalee spears."

Remlap1223··2 votes·449 views

All I can say is that it's boards hyperbole at its finest. I've experienced invisible Braum Qs and invisible Mundo Cleavers in the past, so I kinda had an idea what's going on, but the boards were leading me to believe that the spears were completely invisible, not just the projectiles themselves, but particle effects and all. One more reason for you guys and gals to never believe what you hear on the internet. Nidalee's spears themselves are invisible sometimes, yes, but you can still see the particle effects of the tip. So you can still react to them (albeit unable to in certain situations, such as when completely concealed by fog of war, but when's the last time you were able to dodge a Varus arrow from there when you were at 10% health?) However, the Mundo cleavers have no projectile effects whatsoever, and if they do (CORPORRAAAAATE MUNDO!) they're so limited that you can't tell until it's too late.

Nidalee's spears may be anti-carry weapons of death topped with nuclear warheads and herpes, but even if they're invisible, you can still see the particle effects at the tip and dodge them. Meanwhile...

DrMundo Mundo don't know anything about these invisible cleavers. Sometimes Mundo get so excited about throwing them, he throws them with such force that even when they're not there they hurt people. Has happened before. SLUUUURP!

Edit: Before you boards circlejerkers start soaping yourself into a spoogy lather, I'm not saying that Mundo's is inherently worse (besides them being COMPLETELY invisible, not Nidalee spears "invisible") nor am I saying that they both shouldn't be fixed, but you should think carefully about the way you word things. Invisible spears =/= invisible projectiles. When the particles are still visible, it sucks and should be fixed, but does not warrant disabling Braum, Dr. Mundo, or Nidalee.

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Deep Terror Nami3 votes

Actually, she had an entirely invisible spear bug on top of that. I don't know if it's still there, but through just a few minutes testing I was able to reproduce it and make her Javelins disappear mid-air 100% of the time. It's different from the one where you still see particles.

Just to reiterate, idk if they fixed that one yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMTA7iUqiWI

Remlap12231 votes

Actually it isn't completely invisible. You can still see the particle effects if you look closely in front of Nidalee (take your eyes off her glorious body for one second. YOU CAN DO IT!) It's weird though, I assumed her Bewitching skin had the same momentum particle effects at the front as her classic and headhunter skins do. But yeah, I could see how this skin could be problematic.

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

I knew you'd say that. Zilean

The bat particles persist for the entire length of the spears flight. If it disappears at the beginning, that's when they stop (it just takes a split second for them to dissipate). If the Javelin travels the entire distance then the particle effects will be there along the entire line.

Take a look at one of the javelins that disappear immediately, and one that travels farther and you can see that the bats only go as far as teh spear does, the spear itself merely disappears instantly rather than fading.

Remlap12231 votes

No I completely agree. I don't play Nidalee a whole lot anymore (RIP support kitty) but I know about what she does from personal experience. I've encountered quite a few Bewitching Nidalee's in my day, and I can definitely say that if the particle effects were doing THAT for Nidalee, that would warrant disabling, because you can still see the spears coming in classic and Headhunter. There's no way to tell that a spear was heading your way before it was too late.

The reason Rito hasn't done this already is because of what I said in the OP. I have personally confirmed it with Braum and Dr. Mundo, and just recently Nidalee, so we know it isn't a champion only incident. I've heard scattered reports of other champions, but the general consensus is Dr. Mundo and Headhunter Nidalee being the main culprits. So because it's two champions, we can rule this out as a champion only bug.

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