I just got done with the worst game I've ever played.

Remlap1223··105 votes·6,095 views

No, I wasn't facing a SKT T1 Telecom with all of the broken champions in the game being played. No, I didn't have a toxic teammate on my team. I wasn't even told to kill myself. No, this game, I had the enemy carry intentionally feed kills by walking down lane and wasting summoner spells. Worst part about it? Nobody knew why. One minute he's playing normally, and the next he's just running down lane intentionally tanking tower shots to kill himself.

He wasn't whining in all chat that the role he wanted was taken from him. He didn't call anyone a fag or something like that. Nope, just starting walking down the middle of the lane for the hell of it. Built four longswords. Turned them into vamp scepters. Just sat there and fed.

The saddest part about it? Everyone just kinda gave up after that. My carry didn't want to kill him, but I did it because I was hoping I could force them to surrender so maybe they wouldn't feel as much of their time was wasted (it didn't happen, I assume it was a premade troll from what I heard from the enemy top laner). I was bored stiff and felt horrible the entire game. It wasn't fun. It felt like my time was wasted and the S+ rank I earned that game as Braum was earned unfairly, because it was.

Isn't this what the new system was suppose to fix? Because I can tell you from my own personal experience that it has not fixed it, not in the slightest. The number of trolls has grown exponentially. Toxicity is at an all time high from the two and a half years I've been playing. Why isn't this being addressed meaningfully? The same statements about Lyte's numbers are getting parroted, but I'm seeing the exact opposite in effect. I have yet to play one game in the past two months where someone's game has not been ruined by an AFK player, a toxic shit, or a troll. NOT ONCE. The only games where I actually had fun in the tons of games that I have played were the two custom ones that I joined with one of my IRL friends and his friends. Despite me being Bronze I and all of them ranging from Gold IV to Plat IV, I felt challenged, but most importantly, I HAD FUN. It reminds me of what the game was like just a couple years ago. I'd have friendly banter in all chat. We'd flame about how broken champions are, not about wanting people's mothers' killed and shit. We'd say things like "juuukes" and "rekt" in a playful way, not to intentionally spite someone.

So I'm going to ask Riot one more time. When are you going to stop dicking around your community and actually address the concerns we're actually having? Replays, a better client, new servers, the double login bugs, the lack of lore; these are just a few things that you have failed to follow up on. I'd be able to tolerate it for the most part if the game was actually fun to play. But it's not anymore. The lack of community policing has made sure of that. I am really not exaggerating when I say that I have not had a single game outside of the ones with my IRL friends where someone was having their gameplay experience ruined, myself or others. So, are we actually going to address these things, or are we going to just keep the status quo of all talk and no action?

77 Comments

Juggernaut62848 votes

Remember, you aren't allowed to speak against trolls on the boards or you get downvoted. Or at least apparently as I get downvoted for it. I upvote you though.

Hello I am Bird7 votes

Downvoted

58738074DEL15 votes

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Bouffon dAnglais11 votes

I wonder what you do with all that spare time you saved by typing "u r" instead of "you are".

furnace5628 votes

So he has more time to add extra t's duh.

SlytherinUmbreon7 votes

I saved 15% (or more) on my car insurance.

Remlap122336 votes

"Remember, if your opinion isn't the same as mine, you're wrong"

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Yulen Xoshxius2 votes

Probably so far my favorite boards comment of all time.

JZPorkins1 votes

except you don't really get downvoted for speaking against trolls, and if you do there might have been something else in your statement that got you the downvote. really just stating that is participating in the circlejerk for some upvotes.

brad17 votes

i agree buff rammus

MVDuneCats9 votes

When I read the title, I thought it was going to be a game where your team went a combined 0-31.

And in case anyone is wondering, it's possible. I had one of those games. I've been thinking about posting it. It's like a historical level of failure.

Remlap12234 votes

While I'm addressing the sorry state of community polciicng with this thread, feel free to post and link it to this thread. This sounds like Honey Boo-Boo. Don't want to see it, but can't look away when i do.

Vellich0r6 votes

had a game with a 50 kill deficit once. Still won though because they were so busy kill hunting that they forgot to stop the split pushing shake Cx.

bvcderrttyyhjjjk3 votes

Well I had a ranked match with 4 AFKs. Yeah, I literally was playing 1v5. It happened.

MVDuneCats1 votes

At least you have that excuse! I didn't have any AFK teammates as a reasonable explanation. Even worse, I played may "main" champ.

FluxBound6 votes

How common do you think these kinds of things are? Over my few years of playing, I've seen less than 10 hardcore intentional feeders and no trolls like that. The less there are, the slower the new system will respond to it. It's just one of the flaws of the system, but they can't make utopia if there are ever real people involved. If those people repeatedly do that, they'll probably get banned soon.

Remlap12238 votes

Yeah, you're right. That's why I have a summoner on here bookmarked that has literally intentionally fed in hundreds of ranked games and has not been perma banned yet. I wish I was joking.

FluxBound1 votes

The system has only existed for a week or so, those hundreds of games dont really count atm.

Remlap12234 votes

Tell that to the players that had to deal with that shitlord. If this system is as good as Riot is claiming, then that guy/girl should have gotten the banhammer already.

Yulen Xoshxius1 votes

I want to see!

OldDirtay6 votes

{quoted}

How common do you think these kinds of things are? Over my few years of playing, I've seen less than 10 hardcore intentional feeders and no trolls like that. The less there are, the slower the new system will respond to it. It's just one of the flaws of the system, but they can't make utopia if there are ever real people involved. If those people repeatedly do that, they'll probably get banned soon.

speak for yourself man, in my first 8 ranked games (placements) i had 10 afks, you heard that right...afk in everygame for first 6 and then game 7/8 i had 2 afks in both of those

just because you got lucky doesnt mean we all are, and btw took me forever to get out of bronze thanks to them, ended up making another account and got gold in under 80 games while this account had well over 400+ played (but then with rank reset that gold 5 in promos turned into bronze 2 even tho i won 7/10...thats when i stopped caring

but even the other day i played 8 games and 6 of em were ruined by either afks,troll, and one was an intentional feeder (2 of which were ranked games) so again, just because you got lucky doesnt mean we all are

BluePolarizer4 votes

I had 2 in the past week alone.

1 game our ADC intent feeds because she dies to a gank from mid and tells our mid to buy pinks on next back or feed, our mid backs, doesn't buy a pink ward, ADC says gg and feeds top laner 8 times.

1 game our support is called bad just once by our mid and intent feeds. I was 7-1 as the jungler and still lost due to this intent feeder.

SorasMemories6 votes

I have not truly enjoyed this game since early last year. As time goes by, more broken champions are released and more current ones become irrelevant garbage. I get matched more and more with quiters and trolls. If it wasn't my addiction to crack (league of legends), I would have quit by now.

Sona Ping6 votes

Sorry for your game OP. I'ld feel the same way; This sort of thing is why I always say that rage quits ruin games for nine people instead of just four.

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Isn't this what the new system was suppose to fix?

Actually... No. It wasn't going to fix that at all. It said in the announcement that the system was for "verbal harassment". I don't agree with the system but that's what it is

What the system is, my translation from Press Release to English, is an automated program that scans chat logs of reported players and issues bans based on whether or not it finds words/phrases that match on a list. It doesn't have anything for intentional feeding. If anything, you would be banned by the system for engaging in "the kind of verbal harassment the community actively rejects" and banning you for "homophobia" because you wrote "fag" up there and probably for writing "rekt" as well. I've seen two players getting two week bans in one day, not for insulting a player, but because they quoted what they were being insulted with, e.g. "Could you please report X, he's been calling me a faggot all game."

Remlap12233 votes

I've seen two players getting two week bans in one day, not for insulting a player, but because they quoted what they were being insulted with, e.g. "Could you please report X, he's been calling me a faggot all game."

That's fucking disgusting. Riot, you should be ashamed of yourselves. How many people are you going to falsely ban before you actually meaningfully attempt to fix the problem that is addressed in literally every single one of your competitors' games?

Sona Ping4 votes

I have to be frank; I'm not an employee who knows exactly how the system works or whether or not those two players are being entirely forthright with their accounts, if they got reported before, etc.

I understand It would be hard to manage an active player base of millions but if it is just a word checking with flagged words, then not factoring in that a rager would report his teammates for the same thing would be an obvious (to me) oversight in the systems design.

AnonymousEnigma4 votes

Yes, trolls do still exist and it's fucking obnoxious, but the new system IS better. IMO it should prioritize trolls over toxicity - one can ruin ur match, the other just makes it worse

Sona Ping3 votes

The new system, based on what Riot has said, is absolutely unrelated to trolls. I can see _why _ they did it, it's far easier to write a program that repeatedly crtl-F's through a report log, but a lot of people including myself care far more about a player who rage quits after feeding 3 times top. I could care less about someone on my team "who is not so nice" to us in team chat.

Mistress Madoka4 votes

I think both are equally bad and should be Punished severely and Swiftly

Lugg4 votes

Anytime someone gets reported for intentionally feeding, Riot needs to review the game. If found guilty, there should be a month long ban. That is the only way you will get these trolls to stop it.

Dunkrius2g2 votes

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Anytime someone gets reported for intentionally feeding, Riot needs to review the game. If found guilty, there should be a month long ban. That is the only way you will get these trolls to stop it.

And then you can add a low priority queue on top of that for 10 matches. If said person is extremely toxic, then the last thing is 50 low priority queue matches.

Gavran3 votes

Can we give everyone who makes a false feeding report a month long ban too then?

Lugg1 votes

Sure, I have no problem with that either.

Gavran1 votes

Then that won't waste too much of Riot's time for long, and we just need them to agree too.

stochastic423 votes

TLDR: I got trolled qq. It's riots fault cause there should never be trolls ever. Morello should be specing my games and banning trolls immediately.

IcyPepper19 votes

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DangerBill3 votes

They have actually been slowly rolling out more player behavior stuff. But these things take an awful lot of time to get right so that they don't ban okay people. We just gotta be patient

AbodyHUN6662 votes

I think even after the tribunal get done, we will have to wait a long time for radical changes in bans, since they have to evaluate how many players they have to ban and how much income will they lose/create. I guess it's a hard choice for them getting those numbers right.

SexyTaylorSwift3 votes

Toxicity is never ever ever (T-Swift voice) going to get fixed until they address things like this. Players do this, get raged at, and rito punishes the rager and not this person. Then, this person goes and does it in another game, gets more people punished. They have been going about their pussy-foot way of trying to "stop toxicity" for a couple years now. It has only gotten worse. Should tell them something. What they are doing is the equivalent of turning on your air conditioner to "fix" global warming.

Z Statistic3 votes

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OldDirtay3 votes

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exactly why your wrong and we're right lol

seems there is more people with this type of thing happening to them than not with trolls/afks/feeders

and even the ones that say it dont happen to often are just that, still happening....point being everyone is victim to this and wether it be by chance or w/e, some people more than others

just because some people dont get them as much/often doesnt mean dont fix it, point blank is this is happening again and again and it needs to stop AKA punishments need to be put in place

who here is legit afraid of a report when someone says they are going to report you for w/e reason? case and point

Viddax3 votes

Riot, if any of you read this, please just focus on that last paragraph. It summarizes exactly what I've been experiencing in League for months now. I hate it. I love playing the game, but half the time I play it, I just feel like a shitty human being for wasting my time on it. It can be incredibly fun, but I haven't consistently enjoyed it in a long time.

I specify the last paragraph because it mentions tons of other things that I sympathize with even though they're not necessarily related to the rest of this rant.

The Ellimiist2 votes

Had 3 people feed on purpose in my last 10 games. I feel ya. I've also been reporting all the verbally toxic people as per normal and noticed no difference at all since this "new" system was supposedly implemented. Perhaps it's just suppose to be a placebo effect.

Remlap12232 votes

Even the placebo effect has results from it. In scientific studies you compare your results to the placebo effect for better accuracy in proving what you're experimenting. If after the placebo effect your system is STILL doing worse than a placebo, then you need to get rid of the system and start over.

Master Scar2 votes

honestly i dont think most workers in riot care if the comunity is helthy or not,as long as is big riot gains profit for it and thats why i stoped believeing that riot will do enything about our crapy comunity

H 31 votes

You can't say for sure his intentions were to troll. He might just like messing around and not care how it affects others which would be feeding and selfish but not trolling unless he wants to upset people.

Remlap122321 votes

I want you to reread that comment of yours really carefully and really think about what you said.

HolowHall of Hal1 votes

I don't really have problems like that, I find many friendly people in my games. Not saying that I dont catch ragers/flamers sometimes though

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