Nidalee nerfs, lets do this right..

SwiftKitten88··1 votes·451 views

Now that we seem to be getting more data in i feel we can discuss this humanely. it seems that the root on jungle camps has been removed form Nid's passive and added to her traps. (aka landing a spear on a jungle mob will no longer root them, while placing a trap will.)

As a nid player i can say that although this is certainly a nerf to her early game clear. its no longer 100% impossible for nid to clear. as we thought based on the changes yesterday

but the real issue i have with this change isn't that it nerfs nids jungle clearing speed.. because it certainly needs a nerf at high levels of play. but the fact that this nerf barely hurts the higher levels of play and REALLY hurts the lower levels of play.

nid already has a VERY high skillcap.. and while i feel certain that with over 2000 game as nid... i can adapt. even so as a silver player this hurts a lot.. nid needs a nerf at HIGH level play, not my level of play

you need to nerf a mechanic that only HIGH level nids can do properly. (something like allowing nid to transform mid ponce so she lands as a human, that kind of thing really helps high lvl nid players but lower level nids never use it) granted this example wont slow her clear but its something that higher lvl players can do that lower level players cant nerfing a mechanic that allow lower level nids to play properly is just approaching this the wrong way.. lower level nids arn't the issue.. high lvl nids are

all you are doing to making it next to impossible to clear as nid without having insane mechanics.. which is completely the wrong way to address this. you need a way to nerf nid so having insane mechanics wont help you as much, this way she will be she is better at lower levels of play (where she needs help) and weaker at stronger levels where she is an issue.

find some way to nerf nid that only effect a mechanic high levels of play can abuse.. not a mechanic that allows lower levels of play to even survive on her

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SwiftKitten881 votes

Not to be rude.. but if your going to downvote, can at least state WHY you disagree. im not saying a nerf to nids clear speed isn't unneeded, im saying that this nerf is targeting her at lower elos when she needs to be targeted at higher elos.

in bronze her win ratio is between 40-45%

in silver Nidalee averages between 42-46% win rate

up at gold its between 45-50%

it isn't until plat+ skill level that nid reaches around a steady 50-52% win rate

this nerf is going to REALLY hurt her at lower skill level where she is already bad and do next to nothing at higher skill levels.

this is the wrong approach, she isn't an issue at lower skill levels.. she is an issue at higher skill levels

SwiftKitten881 votes

Can i at least get some context as to WHY nid is getting nerfed like this, obviously without access to PBE i can't really see how much this hurts her. and clearly this is designed to hurt her early game clear speed. as that's pretty much all it does.. but thats on of the main reasons for picking nid... nid has a very good early and mid game... her late game is abysmal.. dropping to below 45% win rate past 35 min even at the highest skill levels.

this nerf is going to really set her behind early game, probably forcing her to back after the 3rd jungle camp. now that would be fine if nid had an amazing late game.. but nid gets worse as time goes on... if she is even in gold mid-late game she is goign to lose.

granted with the changes to item 3077 my other jungler RekSai is goign to be a lot better. but IF the chane is going to go through can we atleast get some compensation for it?

like putting % hp back on her traps so she can lane again, you can keep the cap vs monster at her current values of 40/80/120/160/200.. but at least let her do her other roles again now that you going to make jungle nid that more worse.

also to anymore who has acess to PBE i would like to acatulyl see how she clears now.. maybe it isnt as bad as i think.. idk, but right now I'm just speculating.

i know that my current clear relies HEAVILY on her spear rooting blue buff , red buff, and gromp and im curious as to how her clear would change. as its very hard to proc traps under a monster after you have already agroed it unless its already frozen from a spear which keep it stills for the 2 second it takes the traps to arm

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