Hey Riot. Where's the "counter play"

KnightLakega·Sep 14, 2019·4 votes·1,007 views

I remember last year or so, especially when they were doing reworks to assassins, that they wanted "counter play" in the game...

So explain to me why the hell for the past year now all we're seeing is constant damage buffs, nerfs to defenses, and zero counter play?

Why are you making assassins instant bursting people again?

And why are you so ignorant about your own game to the point that you ignore all other forms of counter play?

Why is defense pointless?

Why are full tanks pointless except to eat a few shots put down CC and get instantly blown up?

Why is every game a snowball fiesta?

and most importantly... Where is the "Counter Play" for a losing team in general? A losing team can't do jack to get back, unless the opposing winning team throws the game.. (We even see this in the pro play scene!)

What a joke riots become.. They don't even remotely understand their own game anymore..

5 Comments

KeiagaSep 14, 20195 votes

1.)counter play to assassins is is building defensively. Assuming you didn't feed them and let them snowball out of control in laning phase, a single defensive item allows you to survive their burst which is as much counter play as you could ask for. The other big counterplay tip is assassin's have difficulty picking off targets in a group.

2.) defense is still very good. Juggernauts like garen urgot and mordekaiser dominate the majority of the top 10 when it comes to winrates.

3.) You don't play tanks right.

4.) The counterplay to a losing team is shutdown gold. You're losing. Did you expect to easily lose your way to that victory screen or something?

Tahminatrix Sep 14, 20191 votes

I`m starting to see matchmaking being a pretty large portion of the issue, probably not bigger than in game variables like time to kill and damage...But enough to be reasonable.

Every game is so onesided because you often get teams that are all or nothing when it comes to knowing how to play while behind or push their advantage and roam, meanwhile some players might still be learning to right click someone who is ccd and within their auto attack range which makes the ccing tank player feel like a useless pile of shit that shouldnt exist in the first place because they have no escape and already committed while their adc is refusing to lend a single auto or ability, or even misses their abilities on someone who is ccd.

boricCentaur1Sep 14, 20191 votes

Please tell me the nerfs to defense, like a better defense crit item was added, towers last longer, tank items have been getting nerfed, conqueror get nerfed.

It sounds like you are just mad at losing to a fed zed and instead of blaming yourself or your team you for some reason think it's unfair that a fed zed should kill a tank fast or a champion fast like no if a champion is fed they will do lot of damage.

KnightLakegaSep 14, 20191 votes

literally everyone is saying there is way too much damage, multiple high up vote discussions how defense is pointless, and yet when I make the argument I get downvoted lol.. gotta love the boards..

boricCentaur1Sep 15, 20191 votes

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literally everyone is saying there is way too much damage, multiple high up vote discussions how defense is pointless, and yet when I make the argument I get downvoted lol.. gotta love the boards..

I don't care if other people are hypocrites. You getting downvoted has nothing to do with anything I talked about. If you got upvotes you are still wrong, if you got downvotes you are still wrong.