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Why do games like this exist.

Zerenza··2 votes·1,146 views

Me- Jungler get's invaded at level 1, no help, no pings, no team to assist me(i didn't get a leash either.)

Team: "Play smarter."

Me: Get's invaded by enemy jungler, runs to their jungle to counter invade, top roams and kills me. Ally Top: "I pinged, your stupid."

Me: 15 minutes into the game having been 2+ man invaded at every camp, barely any gold, any exp, keep trying to gank, doesn't work out. Team: You suck, what's wrong with you.

Me: Okay you know what? Maybe i did make some mistakes but i think the biggest one was thinking you guys were on my team. Team to Enemy Team: "Report Jungler, toxic, flaming the usual." Enemy Team: "Yeah she sucks so i thought so, reported."

So what your telling me is that me having a bad game, getting constantly flamed by both my team and the enemy team is MY FAULT?! Me getting invaded constantly by the enemy team is MY FAULT?! Me falling so far behind that i can't help at all is MY FAULT?! And to top it all off, my SUPPORT is telling me "I shouldn't jungle because i can't do it on my own." DUDE I'VE BEEN 1v5ING THE ENTIRE GAME IN MY OWN JUNGLE THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN I CAN"T DO IT ON MY OWN?!

These games, these kinds of laner's, make me want to quit sometimes.

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xDogMeatx2 votes

because they suck usually due to being petty flamers. btw i think they heavily warded your side. they should really nerf ward durations on enemy side jg area. personal opinion make it feel more dangerous instead of "no matter what ur gonna die if u take that camp but ill think ur psychic" feeling.

Illabethe2 votes

Sometimes as a jungler you need to take a few seconds to evaluate where the enemy is and where you are going. Just because they are invading you, doesn't mean parts of their jungle is safe to invade. In other words, your team was kind of right.

If the opposing jungler is invading your Blue, for example, ward, and ping your team, and wait it out. Possibly try to Smite the steal on the buff. If he's going to go for you or has vision on you, just get out and go to the other side of your jungle, and be wary he may arrive late and try to invade again.

If he's failing at invading you,

-He's sacricing gank pressure. -He's sacrificing XP and levels and gold, making him comparatively weaker. -He's still going to be confident he's beating you or relevant to his team.

There is always an alternative money source as a jungler. For example, most weak junglers don't Krug. Take them. It's probably the safest camp to invade, because Bot/Top usually don't ward there (they can see if you go through a tribush though), and most junglers don't like to waste time. Yet, it's the most XP and Gold camp in the game. On instead of risking Red/Blue, which they will watch, just take Raptors. Most Jungle invades have the fastest effectiveness at Raptors, because they do not have a lot of HP. Always Always Always...... plan an out.

Your support was wrong. But that doesn't mean their overall critique was wrong. If you can't find the right solutions, you probably aren't suited for Jungle (yet). That doesn't mean your support should add that part about "alone." A team should help if they can, but you too should be finding solutions.

Zerenza1 votes

Now what if it wasnt just the jungler who was invading me? I was being invaded primarily by their top+jg or sup+jg, if i got invaded by the JG on botside i'd get invaded by their top laner on top side so i was never safe on either part of the map.

Like don't get me wrong, i appreciate the advice but i can't be responsible for my allies not being able to keep up with their own laner's and i can't be responsible for falling so far behind when none of the lanes were in a position that lets me help them and help myself.

I play jungle a lot, i have about 300 games on Evelynn alone, i'm not saying i'm perfect by any means but i think i know when something is entirely my fault and in this case i asked for help, i looked for other ways of obtaining gold/exp, i warded my own jungle, i took a couple camps here and there but my team didn't do anything to stop their laner's from invading me and i will never think i'm the only person responsible in that situation.

Illabethe2 votes

I'm not trying to place blame.

I've had games that were irredeemable too, as Evelynn. Shortly after she came out, every game was level 1-6 2 man stalk by either a JarvanIV XinZhao or a Talon XinZhao . If your team doesn't help, you really don't have many solutions, except to maybe leech a lane.

I know situations like that exist.

However..... the way you worded your OP illustrated very deeply that you were acting just as impulsively as your team. I can't say for a certainty because I wasn't there, but it sounds very much like you started camps, got ganked, and weren't very aware of your surroundings. So, you wouldn't have been in a better situation than your team. Both of you have room for improvement. Sometimes you have to know when to back off, and not go certain places if the result is going to be death/loss/no xp.

As an aside: These games WILL HAPPEN WHEN YOU GO EVELYNN VS GOOD PLAYERS. It's best to diversify your jungle portfolio with champs who can deal with invades, and to know which champs will do these invades. It's the nature of having an immobile assassin.

If it happens in a game, sell your jungle item and get a item 3098 . At least you can gain gold that way, and can XP catch up in a lane/ganks. You'll have to adjust a playstyle to counter it, but it's better than nothing.

L0ve Is Blue1 votes

If you are behind and go invade the enemy jungle, you deserve to lose. Sorry.

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