I mean yeah,he changed so much that its like a new champion,really solid work there,3 secs for the whole Q combo where you also get stationery and cant move unless you have your E or flash,you know what that means yeah? most champions have almost 400 ms mid game,this shit is impossible to hit at too slow,keep it up ! great concept but absolutely shit execution.
Oleandervine7 votesAll of these champions on release had low winrates in the mere day or two after going live:
Edit: Keyword is DAYS. Aatrox has been out for 2 days. Statistics require lots and lots of numbers in order to be accurate, and player knowledge is also required to get accurate statistics. There is no way in hell any champion within days of their release would have had a high win rate or any kind of accurate statistic about them.
Toxic Diana2 votesAs a Diana main, I’m inclined to proving you incorrect.
Diana Release was broken & she hasn’t been as strong ever since.
Get Ogre Here2 votesAll of these champions on release had low winrates in the mere day or two after going live:
I assume that's every champion in the game. That's not true. Some champions are really OP on release, the first one that comes to mind was Camille. She needed several patches of nerfs to no longer be a permaban.
Oleandervine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Get Ogre Here,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ma7bHMeq,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2018-06-29T15:39:41.734+0000)
I assume that's every champion in the game. That's not true. Some champions are really OP on release, the first one that comes to mind was Camille. She needed several patches of nerfs to no longer be a permaban.
In her first days she wasn't. No champ ever has the statistics to get adequate winrates in the first days of their launch because there's simply not enough data to pull from.
Aatrox has been out for 2 whole days. That's not nearly enough data or time to allow people to understand him.
Warlord Scrap1 votesYea but then they hotfixed his too much. Like i almost liked when riot didnt have access to hotfixes
Oleandervine2 votesYea but then they hotfixed his too much. Like i almost liked when riot didnt have access to hotfixes
Hotfixes are irrelevant here, and generally go out after many days of being live, once Riot can see statistics on their end. The OP is actively complaining that a champion re-released 2 days ago has a bad win rate and that no one knows how to use him.
I was pointing out that every champion has bad win rates in the first days of launch because the statistics aren't there and people haven't learned them yet.
Warlord Scrap1 votesBut hes already been hotfixed is what im saying by a lot
Irelia Bot4 votesYou clearly never saw old Karma.
Ralanr4 votesOr release Taliyah.
Toxic Diana1 votesOr Diana for the past 6 seasons
JohnnyNeverSins2 votes[{quoted}](name=Irelia Bot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ma7bHMeq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-29T15:05:58.703+0000)
You clearly never saw old Karma.
He will stay like that for a long long time with this slow as fuck kit.
Marshbouy4 votesChampions get released at <40% winrate all the time.
That doesn't mean aatrox doesn't suck tho
ModKnightsKemplar4 votesLiterally happened in the last few weeks with Pyke.
SwiftKitten883 votesand yet after 10 whole games, even down in bronze.. that winrate miraculously jumps to 52%?
https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/aatrox/all
idk maybe its becuase his kit is completely different and his playrate of people increased by about 50,000%. none of which know how to play him..
Jamaree1 votesHe might suck, but let's wait just a TINY bit before rolling out any help he might need first please.
Warlord Scrap1 votesToo late he got hotfixed on patch day
webstar19951 votesAre you talking about Pyke? Pyke is pretty dope. All new champs have bad win rates starting out. His is higher that Kai Sa's was.
Colton1471 votes's still trash.