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Can we have a decent answer as to why we cant have trakers knife back?

SwiftKitten88··2 votes·754 views

Every supposed "reason" i have heard so far has been complete and utter bullshit.

"Tracker's Knife is almost mandatory in professional play, giving professional teams enough vision to avoid most early-game danger. Bringing it in line would kill it in most games, so for now we're simply removing it. "

well that kinda the fucking point of vision.

and that is a big fat middle finger to the other 99.999% of your player base who cant rely on their team to ward or remove vision.

you added item 3147 which has its stupid blackout passive which is basically a item 3187 on a cooldown that also DENYS vision and let u ONE SHOT the wards.

also trackers knife was never an issue in previous season before the removal.

all you thought was.

oh the teams arn't fighting enough "lets remove vision so their forced to fucking facecheck"

this pissed me off to no end as a support and a jungler...

as a jungler i can EVER remove vision now outside of pink wards, becuase im not an AD champ.

and as support it is a hell of a lot harder to keep vision on important areas. now.. ESPICALLY since supports cant even WARD AT ALL until they finish thier stupid t2 support item stacks.

you choose to "remove it" becuase the most coordinated teams in the world had "too much vision"

did u ever fuckign stop to think that.

maybe, JUST MAYBE. the other 99.999% of player CAN'T always rely on their team to ward, let alone do it properly.

you dont want lcs players to use it.. DON'T FUCKING LET THEM USE IT.. all you have to say it "you cant use it"

just like they cant use specific skins..., or they cant use a specific champion like u did with AurelionSol fora week or 2 while he had a visual bug. you completely fuck over your players.

just like u did when u buffed Khazix for no reason because "LC$"

im tried of having to deal with shitty smite options that do jack shit for the champs i play, when all i am worried about is getting invaded or being able to place deep wards or not being able to drop a fucking ward over the dragon or baron pit wall becuase its on fucking cooldown becuase i had to place it to not face check a bush.

i mean were were so fucking deying for vision we ended up building support items for vision and u fucking stopped is from placing those to.

WHY CAN'T WE FUCKING BUY VISION?

3 Comments

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Yes, too much vision is a thing. If there's little danger to walking into enemy territory then the game will stall and champions that need a little surprise to function will just be permanently trash tier.

Eleshakai1 votes

There's a fine balance. I feel like we've erred slightly towards 'too little vision', but not so far towards that end of the spectrum that adding a second sightstone to most games is the solution.

Brutalitops011 votes

There was definitely too much vision before the removal. Now, there's slightly too little vision, but with 2 trinket wards and a pink you can easily keep yourself safe early game and late game, you're not supposed to be safe even with the team fully working together. If you are, champions like Fiddlesticks, who rely on surprise but don't have inbuilt stealth, drop to the bottom of the tier list. If it's impossible for people to be caught off guard, the game stalls to a near standstill, especially in late game. LCS and pro games usually don't even get first blood until relatively late game, and that one kill can severely punish the team that overall lost that fight, even going so far as to lose them the game. Having 2 Sightstones able to be bought by team members isn't the solution. It's the same reason why they gated the support's Sightstone behind the quests. So you have to wait a bit longer to start controlling vision as a support and it's more difficult to keep vision everywhere.

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