Just interested to see who people comment with, not a "so and so is OP" thread.
Personally I never feel outplayed when I die to
I just kinda expect it at some point no matter how safe I play. Like it's more of a thing that just happens rather than them outplaying me.
Dextix LT33 votes
"W - R - Q - Q" Much Lcs, such skeel.
Has every tool he needs to deal with anything, he can only really outplay himself...
Enemy has more hp? Stun and then Run or lifesteal up and kill the enemy while they are stunned for an eternity.
Çhåryzård31 votes[{quoted}](name=Dextix LT,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mYN3Ecah,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2017-04-28T18:05:37.282+0000)
The thing I hate about Lee is that he can decide when you fight him and when you don't.
If he lands the Q and dives in you're forced to deal with him and if he ends up losing the fight he'll just R you away.
NiceTryVi8 votesAnd if he doesnt have his R or misses he Q, he just wardhops. Much plays, very skill
KushKillah4 votesAnd lets not forget his drop a ward and jump to it.....
Love Girl29 votes
Pierce The Veal6 votes[{quoted}](name=control 2,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mYN3Ecah,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-28T17:08:14.000+0000)
I disagree on the akali. Takes actualy planning to play her properly and not fuck up.
BeatzBoyFTW16 votesLike what? Dive people with R, throws Q-AA, spam E, and then R again for extra damage?
Pierce The Veal4 votesLike what? Dive people with R, throws Q-AA, spam E, and then R again for extra damage?
Congratulations, if you played Akali, you would have just dealt ~500-800 damage (at level 16) and ran out of energy. Her R does less damage than her autos. Her E at max rank has 3 second cooldown and does a little more than an auto.
You are now dead.
BeatzBoyFTW24 votesAnd you forgot that AA-ing a Q'ed target refunds back 40 energy, so as we sum up the energy cost altogether if we were to go by the combo I mentioned:
Energy Bar = 200 R = 0 Q = (-60) AA = (+40) E = (-60) R = 0
Final Energy left = 120
Ran out of energy, my ass.
Tin of sardines12 votesand the lich bane, here is the lich bane? here's 
the forgot that and the 
in the math.
Wyrmblade19 votesI'd rather list the champions I do feel outplayed by.
It takes a ton of mistakes to get 5 stacked by him.
If you die to bard it's because you did something very, very stupid.
It's very easy to position against him and avoid getting three stacked.
Anyone who still plays Mundo deserves to kill me.
His ultimate is a very clear indicator of when you need to back off.
Anyone who still plays Mordekaiser deserves to kill me.
Barring support Vel'koz with a jhin that knows how to land W the moment Vel uses ult, everything Vel'koz does is very easy to avoid and counterplay
Same as Vel'koz
Not outplayed in terms of kit, but map positioning.
Once you memorize his range it's not hard to avoid getting knocked up.
Dodge one extremely delayed skill shot. Ult is very hard to use well.
Everything in his kit is avoidable. He's immobile, squishy and his autos are relatively short ranged.
The champions most well known for "outplays" give the enemy no opportunity to play against them. They own the onus of victory in its entirety.
ZT Xperimentor3 votesIt's pretty sad that riot has been removing outplay potential, for being fun to play as; when the point of pvp, was to have fun fighting each-other.
Big Lincoln7 votesIf you die to bard it's because you did something very, very stupid.
wrong
Wyrmblade3 votesExplain why in the form of a haiku.
Big Lincoln5 votesBard can surely kill He has very high damage Thunderlords OP
Erractic Eick2 votesI wasn't sure I agreed before, but the haiku convinced me.
ModAcademy Kayn8 votesThe amount of people who have told me in All Chat how stupid they felt dying to AP Bard Mid early game is a fun one.
Wimbledofy9 votesjhin's autos aren't really that short and his q is unavoidable. If we include tahm as a top laner then there isn't really much outplay if he just autos you and w's you.
Truly not Gay13 votesIt's really hard to avoid getting knocked up by when you are 
[slayer-jinx-wink]
Elkington VI18 votes
Mainly because I'm almost always playing an immobile melee of some sort and trying to catch her feels like panning for gold. Whenever I occasionally lock in TF, she instantly becomes 100x easier to deal with.
When played well, she is every bruiser's worst nightmare. Can't catch her, can't escape her, can't counterbuild gg.
He might as well be a ranged bruiser at this point, as Subjugate works just as well on him as it does on a tank, but unlike a tank he can kite for days with lifesteal and crits. Is in literally every other game as well. I don't think a more forgiving champion can exist honestly. He seems to be a pain in the ass no matter who is playing him.
xJLx MCHammer16 votesYou should feel outplayed. Those champions are provided the tools to outplay.
What you are describing is anger that a champion you played had fewer options to outplay
If you are playing a Karthus, you can't outplay much. You can land constant Q, side step, and W to land a slow. Outside of that you can't outplay without the use of W
A champion like kat, lee, Yas, do have the tools to dodge more or do capitalize on your mistakes
Aptest12 voteswhen any of these champions are using their provided options properly than i am not outplayed. I am just playing out the inevitable conclusion of me having no outs.
outplayed = I have outs, and reasonable ones (a reasonable out = I get to take a free objective after the conflict ends). And I was denied because I was baited or forced into playing them poorly.
Outplayed == I only have outs if the other guy misplays heavily. The usage of the out does not constitute the other player being better than me or having greater skill or outdoing me as a player in any way.
Penns13 votes
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atomic acid 5325 voteslee twice lmao
KushKillah3 votes[{quoted}](name=atomic acid 532,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mYN3Ecah,comment-id=00030002,timestamp=2017-04-28T20:24:32.196+0000)
lee twice lmao
Yep, he doesn't necessarily out play you so much as he's just impossible to deal with by lvl 3, lol.
Dethflash9 votesPlaying anyone who relies on autoattacks then i would say he just clicks E then your autoattacks do literally no damage AND they make stun do even more damage, all the while is smashing your face with his lamppost. No I really don't want to imagine if you had a real weapon.
first passive actually gave her 25% dodge chance when was moving, but Riot felt like dodge was a OP mechanic on an adc, so they changed passive to the one it is today.
is basically an adc but in melee range, only he has a gap closer or escape (Q), empowered autoattack reset (W), free attack speed (passive), a 3 hit bonus damage passive at level 6 with an active giving you bonus armor and Magic resistance which scales off AD or AP. Then you add the E on top of all that and you just die if you are a any champion who relies on Autoattacks. Of course there are exceptions, but once Jax finishes an Item and a half he is typically in a spot that majority of autoattack reliant champions just cant deal with him anymore
Erractic Eick5 votesHey, Jax main here, and I can understand your pain, especially if you are an ADC main (Jax is pretty specialized into hunting ADCs). Jax is designed to be THE melee hypercarry, so his damage is really oppressive once he hits his late game. Here are a few tips for winning fights against Jax, because there may be more counterplay than you might originally think:
Jax's kit allows him to deal hybrid damage, and thanks to his ultimate, gain resistances for building AP (MR) or AD (Armor). However, AP Jax builds are uncommon compared to his AD builds, so if you want to kill a Jax, itemize your build to enhance any magic damage abilities your champion has.
However, if you still want to play an ADC and mess up a Jax, I recommend Corki. He has an escape from Jax's Q, deals lots of magic damage, and has the ranged abilities to harass a Jax out of lane. Regardless of the champion you play, though, make sure to stay near your support. They will give you the peel to survive a Jax, and if they're a tank, they can also provide the CC to ruin his day.
Jax's damage is almost exclusively single target. While this mean his dueling power is unparalleled in League, his team fighting ability is rather unimpressive. Working with your teammates to bring down a Jax early in a fight is crucial; he is a melee carry capable of taking down your whole team (especially once lategame hits), but only one at a time, so treat him with the same priority you would an enemy ADC. AOE damage is a Jax main's nightmare.
Wait until the fight is halfway through to use your CC. If Jax can't autoattack you, then his stacks fall off really quickly. Using your CC halfway through a fight means he has to start building up passive stacks all over again, thus reducing his damage substantially. Your team's tank is your best friend when you are playing against Jax.
Like you said, your auto attacks do nothing against a Jax with E, so run when you see that lamppost spin. If you can get adequate distance between you and Jax, this is the time to use your abilities. All of Jax's abilities, aside from his Q, run on timers. His dodge ends. His empower eventually drops. His ultimate's active has an 8 second duration with a minimum 70 second cooldown. Furthermore, his ultimate and E are not cheap mana-wise, nor do they have low cooldowns. Try to bait the ability, and then engage once the particle effects fade or the lamp stops spinning.
I have more tips, and I'm sure you have disagreements, so I'd be happy to talk through any concerns you have.
Asayake 5150glow8 votes When I dodge all his Q's.
I don't feel like he outplayed me, it's either I failed to outplay him enough and/or his stats too high and I couldn't kill him before he got 5 stacks.
Ahristocats3 votesif his stats were too high then he was ahead of you
just like any other adcs if their stats are too high they don't need anything but AA to kill you cait has animation cancelling, but if she's ahead rightclicking will be enough to kill you
Asayake 5150glow4 votes[{quoted}](name=Janna X RubicK,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mYN3Ecah,comment-id=000f0000,timestamp=2017-04-28T21:18:02.992+0000)
if his stats were too high then he was ahead of you
Ye. Getting zoned in laning does that.
just like any other adcs if their stats are too high they don't need anything but AA to kill you cait has animation cancelling, but if she's ahead rightclicking will be enough to kill you
Ahristocats3 votes[{quoted}](name=Cant Hold Me Now,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mYN3Ecah,comment-id=000f00000000,timestamp=2017-04-28T21:19:57.660+0000)
Ye. Getting zoned in laning does that.
i have no idea why you're getting zoned by darius when 90% of the toplane roster is mobile or ranged take a look at darius win rate against some champion with leagueofgraph
take a look at darius against renekton/aatrox/yorick/kled for instance
If OP is talking about dodging darius Q it means he's playing a mobile champion, and most of them have a positive win rate against him and destroys him in lane
Asayake 5150glow3 votes[{quoted}](name=Janna X RubicK,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mYN3Ecah,comment-id=000f000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-28T21:22:11.862+0000)
i have no idea why you're getting zoned by darius when 90% of the toplane roster is mobile or ranged take a look at darius win rate against some champion with leagueofgraph
Mobile doesn't mean you don't get zoned, because he also passively outstats you in laning phase even if you aren't ahead. Especially since the mobile ones are usually squishier (except the lane bullies)
take a look at darius against renekton/aatrox/yorick/kled for instance
Doesn't Darius fuck Yorick? Kled is really strong early game because of his huge health pool, and Darius fucks Aatrox too.
If OP is talking about dodging darius Q it means he's playing a mobile champion, and most of them have a positive win rate against him and destroys him in lane
I'm the OP btw.
Also because I dodged Darius Q doesn't mean I'm super mobile. And Darius has a positive winrate period so wtf. Unless you mean mobile like Fiora/Riven style mobile, and that's because Fiora counters Darius and Riven is a skill matchup, and most Rivens over plat/Diamond are onetricks.
Noxian Pride2 votes[{quoted}](name=Cant Hold Me Now,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mYN3Ecah,comment-id=000f0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-28T21:57:25.256+0000)
Doesn't Darius fuck Yorick?
Yorick can brainlessly murder Darius post-2. No mobility to avoid his trap and Q doesn't one-shot his winions.
Stray Kat7 votesI dunno, the only ones I ever feel didn't outplay me are probably and . One is going to lose a trade, stun me, win the trade afterall, then heal back up before the next trade.. While the other is going to press Q over and over and over, block the first shot I DO manage to land on him, Q some more, and if I just so happen to walk within a screen of him, probably flash and jump onto me with his stun combo the moment I'm below 75%.
I mean, I get that neither of them is considered 100% "Braindead" to play, it's just more of a "You beat them or they beat you. No in between" when I come across these two.
Stalinium7 votesTryndamere. Never even once felt remotely outplayed. Because I wasn't. And never have been. Never will be
Dark Nephthys7 votes I don't care what you say...Basically if he puts down his stun field and you get hit by it you basically instantly die with no hope at all with his like 2.5 second AoE stun and even if he doesn't stun you with it, just putting it around you forces you to stay still or flash...I had a game where I was playing with 300 AP, 4500 HP and 200 MR and I still was killed in under a second by him.
I really hate him but he does have weaknesses so I wouldn't call him overpowered...At least in Summoner's Rift but I'd say he is the most broken champion in ARAM...
Trias0002 votesLast ARAM I played, 2-item Veigar already had 900 AP (with Archangel's Staff and Rabadon's Deathcap). I can't even
Dark Nephthys2 votesLast ARAM I played, 2-item Veigar already had 900 AP (with Archangel's Staff and Rabadon's Deathcap). I can't even
Yea which is one of the reasons why I really hate him as well. Other than his stun field covering literally half of the entire lane as a huge aoe 2.5 second stun on a low CD. Then as you mentioned he gets to much AP. When the Veigar has like 700+ AP with 2 AP items and you are using the same exact AP items he has and only have like 250-300 if even that is really annoying.
Dancing Foxx6 votesWas going to say Annie.
Or anyone with a 1-hit wonder ult early game - like Fizz/Zed.
Fed by Snu Snu6 votes
Honorary mention: Many ADCs when having a supporting them.
6Sfool5 votes I don't hate her as much as I do other champs, but every time I see one I'm reminded of how surprisingly far she can dash, and how little my damage/tankiness/mobility matter to her.
Melledoneus5 votes
Oh yay, you dashed up to me, chunked my HP, threw a nearly unavoidable skillshot at me, auto'd me again, then shot a cannonball to my face.
All while I can't see what the f*ck is happening over the 2 seconds it happened.
Presses the SKILL button and walks away without any prior engagement.
FantasySniper5 votes
Without 3 people to lock them down and put foot to ass, it feels like shit fighting them.
Unavoidable CC on a champion with enough burst to be her own assassin.
They hop all over the fucking place and even when you do perfectly land skillshots, they just ignore them.
KushKillah3 votes
Gotta love dat 0/25 Fizz with literally any item. AP? Sure. AD? Why the hell not? One combo your Fed adc, assassin, or mage, NO PROBLEM.
Over Innsmouth5 votes 100% of your damage is unavoidable point-click, both health and armour mean nothing, and you have way too many steroids to be fair. Fuck you.
SirΤeemο4 votes 
they can't out play you , because they don't have such ability to do so , they either 1 shot kill champs , or op at general
Elkington VI12 votes
GP and Jayce have a ton of outplay potential. There is a huge difference between good ones and bad ones.
PermabannedGaren5 votes[{quoted}](name=Elkington VI,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mYN3Ecah,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2017-04-28T18:45:49.401+0000)
GP and Jayce have a ton of outplay potential. There is a huge difference between good ones and bad ones.
Fiora probably has more outplay potential than GP and Jayce combined friendo.
Darius also has some outplay potential, primarily based around his Q's healing.
Reaper Soraka3 votesDarius hit me with the blade of his axe. Well I had counterplay if I just moved in to the hilt or out of it's range. I just need to find a way around that 90% slow he applies beforehand...
macromite3 votes
These two.
Whenever I die I always feel like it's less that I got outplayed, and more that they just managed to push all their buttons without catastrophically failing.