I want to hear peoples' opinions.

Niyumi·Aug 27, 2016·1 votes·503 views

The other day, I asked a question of GC, who didn't reply (whether he will or not, I donno). But, I'd like to know what other people think.

(GC) ...Likewise, there is nearly always a tier of Bronze-stomping champions that are more easily dealt with (frequently by crowd control) at higher elos.

He wrote a lot more, but I asked a question specifically about this part.

(Me) One thing you mentioned is bronze-stomp champions who are easily beaten in higher ELO by CC -- I have a question about that.

If a champion is so absurdly strong that the only way to beat them is to prevent them from doing anything at all (CC spam) -- how is that considered balanced? Shouldn't you be able to outplay a champion without just entirely disabling them?

So, that was my question. Now, what do you guys think? Just interested in knowing if I'm the only person who thinks like that.

6 Comments

MarshbouyAug 27, 20161 votes

If a champion is so absurdly strong that the only way to beat them is to prevent them from doing anything at all (CC spam) -- how is that considered balanced? Shouldn't you be able to outplay a champion without just entirely disabling them?

they aren't absurdly strong though. Champions like MasterYi need to build almost full glass cannon to stay relevant damage wise. That's going to make them a lot more vulnerable to CC than someone like Amumu .

Mobility also needs to be considered. A champion such as Riven is highly mobile and relies on that mobility to survive. CCing them is a lot more punishing than CCing DrMundo .

Finally, in general kiting works against basically every melee and a handful of low ranged champions (or everyone if you are playing caitlin. fuck her). This can be done through orbwalking, slows, or both.

TheSequelsRBadAug 27, 20161 votes

My opinions?

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And just because a champion needs to be cc'd to be countered, that doesn't automatically make them OP.

There you go, my opinions.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 27, 20161 votes

HAVING CC IS PART OF COUNTER PLAY. JUST AS HAVING DAMAGE. HAVING TANK STATS, HAVING DASHES/BLINKS ALL OF IT IS FOR COUNTER PLAY YOU USE THE TOOLS YOUR CHAMP HAS TO COUNTER THE CHAMP YOU WANT TO BEAT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD4q3leE5Uw

NiyumiAug 27, 20161 votes

Spamming CC is not counterplay. Using a well-timed CC at just the right moment to disrupt someone's kit is counterplay -- locking someone down for a good 6-7 seconds while you murder them is not.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 27, 20161 votes

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Spamming CC is not counterplay. Using a well-timed CC at just the right moment to disrupt someone's kit is counterplay -- locking someone down for a good 6-7 seconds while you murder them is not.

I GUESS DOING DAMAGE TO KILL SOMEONE ISNT COUNTER PLAY EITHER JUST ONLY WHEN THEY ARE CLOSE TO DYING