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"All these people whining about Kai'Sa before she even hits PBE is sickening."

aZ3R0n·2/23/2018, 12:31:41 AM·2 votes·478 views

Etc, etc.

https://youtu.be/wAZB8SCaYaY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMXFphr3BV8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amr4KFnyAIs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEMnwwewkhg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m6uig4qTJ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLoKK8M1sxg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwjA0LWpbJ0

The sad fact is, we didn't have to wait to see her in action on PBE to know she was going to be busted. Riot has been dropping the ball on proper damage balancing when it comes to releasing certain champions, to most recent I personally had issues with were and .

When I first saw Kai'Sa's kit in the reveal, I knew right away we were going to be dealing with another damage balancing nightmare. Her kit is designed to do lots of damage in a short amount of time while lowering the risk of going all-in by providing a shield and some mobility. Sound familiar?

Whether you agree or disagree, or just want to join the circlejerk of people bashing those who "whine" about damage, what I am actually noticing is that there are a considerable amount of players here that lack faith in Riot's balancing team to do a good job.

inb4 "they'll balance her numbers before she hits live"

7 Comments

nm10102/23/2018, 12:40:00 AM4 votes

You linked a bunch of master+ players playing against people who are probably silver-gold. I know Redmercy used to take low elo subs for his custom games to guarantee he would do well, Ghost to Lane seems like the type to do that shit too (he has faked videos in the past). As someone who has actually played her I can tell you that the only thing that feels too strong is her passive damage, other than that she is really underwhelming.

Her laning is relatively bad, all of the items she wants cost a fortune, and her wave clear is also her only real trading option. This basically means you have to jungle her (I feel like) and her clears aren't super fast. This limits her gold income and she has trouble getting her items. Top lane against a melee is another choice, but she only has a small MS buff to dodge ganks. All in all she is a very opportunistic style of play, but she kind of lacks any way to reliably create opportunities outside of w into r which is a high cd.

Salron2/23/2018, 12:51:08 AM3 votes

You linked 7 clickbait videos

Want a cookie?

Foxynth2/23/2018, 12:36:15 AM1 votes

It's the forums, dude. People have to have a place to complain lol

The only note I would like to make though, is that there is the interesting note of her gaining permanent stats on an item buy. She looks like something that would be at least a little fun, and that's what matters to me, imo.

Rayjay Redfang2/23/2018, 12:38:21 AM1 votes

This happens for most new champions, click bate broken title and clips where you get fed.

And people are whining about her design

Archlord Aatrox2/23/2018, 12:34:35 AM1 votes

people complain and whine about the pettiest of issues, which is what sickens about these site. don't be fooled by those clickbait videos

paisy2/23/2018, 12:48:41 AM1 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARqO3RCJRVg&t=244s

When people thought Swain was broken

Sona Ping2/23/2018, 2:19:12 AM1 votes

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Etc, etc.

https:// youtu.be/wAZB8SCaYaY

https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=qMXFphr3BV8

https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=Amr4KFnyAIs

https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=lEMnwwewkhg

https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=9m6uig4qTJ0

https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=lLoKK8M1sxg

https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=qwjA0LWpbJ0

The sad fact is, we didn't have to wait to see her in action on PBE to know she was going to be busted. Riot has been dropping the ball on proper damage balancing when it comes to releasing certain champions, to most recent I personally had issues with were and .

When I first saw Kai'Sa's kit in the reveal, I knew right away we were going to be dealing with another damage balancing nightmare. Her kit is designed to do lots of damage in a short amount of time while lowering the risk of going all-in by providing a shield and some mobility. Sound familiar?

Whether you agree or disagree, or just want to join the circlejerk of people bashing those who "whine" about damage, what I am actually noticing is that there are a considerable amount of players here that lack faith in Riot's balancing team to do a good job.

inb4 "they'll balance her numbers before she hits live"

"videos"

I'm sorry, those are not evidence for that.

The PBE is for bug testing, not for players balancing.
That's a good thing because PBE is notoriously bad for having "low quality games" or bad matches like...
Those are videos where people are trying to make videos to publicize a change and make money, so, as within your examples, you get Challenger players trying to make a video being matched against a Bronze 2 opponent. They are probably going to do well. So...
they are not a reliable measure of anything. They are trying to make attractive videos that make it look exciting, which means in LoL youtube "high damage, high K/D". This further means they are not representative if only because they are going to be deliberately selected to only show a certain kind of result. As an example,
You saw the exact same thing with new Swain videos when he was on PBE and he is terrible.
You're not understanding that this videos are created to only showcase a certain kind of non-responsive result. Worse yet, you don't seem to understand that the outcome of single games does not reflect on the overall state of the circumstances related to it.

Your first video is a Vandiril video! A creator everyone knows for making videos that showcase odd, interesting, exceptional occurrences and interactions that do not occur in League of Legends gameplay.

His videos are not representative of how things are because the enemy team does not coordinate to enhance an opposing player.