Nidalee is in a pathetic state

GripaAviara·Feb 27, 2019·3 votes·2,096 views

What the hell riot.

Does that champion even exist for you anymore?

24 Comments

HammermancerFeb 27, 20193 votes

she used to have three more cancels and was played often more as a bruiser/fighter than an assassin

oh boy riot fixed her, now she's shittier zoe without any of the good parts of her kit! Isn't that great?

DynikusFeb 27, 20192 votes

Nidalee's fine, what are you talking about? she's not an S tier godly faceroll jungler, but she's still perfectly viable.

GripaAviaraFeb 27, 20194 votes

How is she fine?

They made her so weak that you must hit spear at near max length to kill someone (unless ofc you are fed :/ but you can say that for almost any champ). If in theory, you are a master spear hitter .. it's fine I guess.

Not only that but your clear is shiet compared to Lee, WW or other junglers that can gank same fast as you .

She hits a small power spike around lvl 8. Then she falls so hard behind

DynikusFeb 27, 20192 votes

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How is she fine?

They made her so weak that you must hit spear at near max length to kill someone (unless ofc you are fed :/ but you can say that for almost any champ). If in theory, you are a master spear hitter .. it's fine I guess.

Not only that but your clear is shiet compared to Lee, WW or other junglers that can gank same fast as you .

She hits a small power spike around lvl 8. Then she falls so hard behind

I stop taking you seriously the second you say nidalee's clear is shit. She's a high skill floor champion, you're playing her poorly if you have slow clear times. If your argument is she's bad because you're bad at landing skillshots, that's... well that's really not an argument that supports the champion being bad. That's user error.

GripaAviaraFeb 27, 20193 votes

that's the lames thing ever.

No champion in lol is as depended as nidalee on their skillshot hitting right now.

Even damn Zoe, has a way more easier to hit and powerful skill shot.

Even so, any high ceiling champ is in theory rewarded with something, what is nidalee rewarded with other than barely keeping up?

WindLord7070Mar 1, 20191 votes

You aren't wrong about her depending on her skill shot more than most champion. And it really sucks that it's also by far the easiest one to dodge but her clear is fine you just have to know what you are doing and not face roll.

GripaAviaraMar 1, 20191 votes

Her clear is fine when compared to the whole champion pool, her clear is not fine when compared to other junglers. She needs to kite the jungle creeps, that takes time. Karthus, for example, has a way faster clear. Same as Lee Sin, which is a better version of Nidalee in all.

The problem is, you get a great clear if you focus on AP. If you focus on AP you die way too fast to be useful.

Not only that, but the amount of dash champs is staggering. Even if you hit, if the enemy times the dash as you jump, you miss the jump and end up without escape in a precarious position as the dash champion can now either kite you if ranged or CC you and burst since Nidalee needs to get in the enemy lines and has a health pool comparable to Lux (a glass cannon).

IllabetheMar 1, 20193 votes

High skill floor? really? I've never felt like that.....

The reason I put her back in the box was because she literally has no team fight agency. After she's pulled off her 20/3 miracle..... teams just begin to move like a force of nature against everything she's achieved and if she dives that force she begins to die. A lot. She's one of the best early game gankers and late game farmers. But it's late game pvp that matters now, not early.

GripaAviaraMar 1, 20191 votes

It's not even late game, the moment opponent has 2 items and stop lanning so they cluster together the game is almost over for nidalee.

She falls so hard at just 20 min

IllabetheMar 1, 20192 votes

By the end of Season 7-ish I was building tank items on her, since Q scales with missing HP of the opponent. Better to lay down a huge Iceborne slow and survive a bit than rely on throwing Javs and praying they connect.

DynikusMar 1, 20191 votes

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By the end of Season 7-ish I was building tank items on her, since Q scales with missing HP of the opponent. Better to lay down a huge Iceborne slow and survive a bit than rely on throwing Javs and praying they connect.

I'm not sure why people don't take advantage of bruiser nidalee more. I saw a master tier player building item 3027 item 3025 item 3102 item 3157 item 3047 item 3089 (Or something similar to it) Midalee basically every game, tried it, and it helps her not fall of like a ton of bricks late game.

IllabetheMar 1, 20191 votes

My only problem with that build: RoA doesn't activate when in Cougar form :S

GripaAviaraMar 3, 20191 votes

Because for that build to work, you need a decent team and champions like yasuo banned

HungryAngry2SPPFeb 27, 20192 votes

Isn't she one of the most picked junglers in high elo? (Asking seriously)

GripaAviaraFeb 27, 20192 votes

https://champion.gg/champion/Nidalee/Jungle?

Role placement: 26 / 45

Not even in the first half, but ok

Titanium70Feb 28, 20193 votes

He's talking about actuall High Elo, not Plat+...

https://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Nidalee

And she's doing fine there, so don't expect any buffs in near future.

GripaAviaraMar 1, 20193 votes

Dude, she has 0.5% pick rate. Ofc he has a good win rate when she is used just as a counter pick

Lee Sin has the exact same win rated an staggering near 6% play rate. https://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/LeeSin

This is massive biased bullshit people are displaying here. I get you guys don't like nidalee, but wtf.

A champion that barely performs decently at and only at 0.1% of the player base and "she's fine"

WTF

RobotOverlordJan 3, 20202 votes

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He's talking about actuall High Elo, not Plat+...

https://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Nidalee

And she's doing fine there, so don't expect any buffs in near future.

Who gives a fuck what happens in that elo?

WindLord7070Feb 28, 20192 votes

Hopefully they look at her soon. They've commented before about possibly changing her a bit so she can also lane again.

GripaAviaraMar 1, 20191 votes

That would be something