What Rylai's Should Be Next Season

AirKingNeo·Oct 9, 2016·29 votes·1,227 views

It shouldn't be a mana or CDR option.

You want mana? You get:

You want CDR? You get:

It should be a tanky option with slowing power. But what could possibly be the build path and stats?

+ + Stats: 550 Health, 65 AP. Costs 3000 gold. Passive: Spells slow enemies based on slow type. Single Target: 35% for 1 second. Area of Effect: 30% for 0.75 seconds. On Attack Effect: 40% for 1 second. (Jax W, Morde Q, ect.) Damage Over Time: 20% for 1 second. Multihit: 30% for 1 second.

Basically it's a tankier option with less damage but also slows less because of people may still buy it for a permanent slow (which is pretty toxic).

EDIT: If it was to have CDR: , 65 AP, 450 HP, 10% CDR.

26 Comments

The Yetii RiderOct 9, 201613 votes

40% slow on attack? I agree, buff Ezreal.

AirKingNeoOct 9, 20161 votes

Oh fuck wait... Iceborn already exists. If Rylai's doesn't work on Ezreal right now then have it not work for him. Plus AP ezreal is kinda eh.

The Yetii RiderOct 10, 20161 votes

Rylai's doesn't work on him because it doesn't work on any on-attack effects like Jax W, as far as I know.

morris1Oct 10, 20161 votes

I'm not sure if this fits in but I know for a fact that Shen's Q procs spell effects.

Malicious MetalOct 9, 20167 votes

I like the suggested change to the slow strength. It's really specific but works to balance all the different spell paradigms!

AirKingNeoOct 9, 20161 votes

Well I feel like AoE spells shouldn't slow strong at all, meanwhile its way too weak on multi hit (Sona).

WiegrafOfValorOct 10, 20165 votes

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EDIT: If it was to have CDR: , 65 AP, 450 AP, 10% CDR.

Veigar : 450 AP - COUNT ME THE FCK IN.

morris1Oct 10, 20161 votes

515 even.

AirKingNeoOct 10, 20161 votes

Typo, thanks for catch!

HazyCloud7Oct 10, 20163 votes

Honestly I don't care that much as long as it remains a viable option for mages. Upvote for not trolling with a 40 AP suggestion like many of the other trolls on this board lately.

Squidward DabOct 10, 20163 votes

I don't know why 40 ap is even suggested that's so weak it's basically a glorified aether/fiendish

HazyCloud7Oct 10, 20162 votes

Its really simple. It's trolls who hate mages and want Rylai's to no longer be an option for them.

Squidward DabOct 10, 20161 votes

I mean If you're gonna give such shitty ap on rylais then other ap items need more ap or zhonyas gets back at least 80-90 ap

AirKingNeoOct 10, 20161 votes

I'm a Kayle main so I don't want it gutted, I'd rather have more defensive even though more AP is defensive because W heals.

Hell give Rylai's CDR and drop 50 HP (From my idea), I'll take it.

Karn BishopOct 10, 20162 votes

40 ap suggestions are not trolling suggestions, rather they are a balance point that allows you to focus on the strengths of an item, and in this case maybe rylai would offer more HP, increased slows or some other new mechanic to keep the item viable while also denying certain mage champions that should not have constant slows from using it since they need the AP due to strong ratios vs other champs where the ap is not nearly as important.

Squidward DabOct 10, 20163 votes

40 ap on a basic item like fiendish codex or aether wisp isn't trolling, 40 ap on a legendary item like rylais is trolling because if you're using the OP's slow plan with 40 ap you're basically telling all mage players to waste their gold cuz even with the 550 Health it would be so gold inefficient that mages would rather buy a zeke's herald

EvewynnOct 9, 20162 votes

I feel like you could combine some of the slow values to make them less cluttered. The difference between 35 and 40% is not exactly game breaking. Also I wouldn't push it below 70 AP.

Malicious MetalOct 9, 20163 votes

+5 Ap, -50 hp?

AirKingNeoOct 10, 20161 votes

+10% CDR, -50 hp sound decent though?

Karn BishopOct 10, 20162 votes

First off it should continue to only trigger on spell cast, secondly drop the ap to 40.

edit: since people don't get it allowing it to slow on auto would open it up to so many champions to abuse it who have no business even looking at rylai let alone building it, and the lower AP is to make the item a trade off as in do you want slows? or damage? because you can't have both. guess people just want a broken and unfair item to abuse i guess rather then a balanced one.

AirKingNeoOct 10, 20161 votes

I never said Slow on Autos I said slow with on attack effects (Morde Q, Jax W.)

VegathronOct 10, 20161 votes

what if applying rylias slow had a mini cooldown on the champ it was applied to before you could reapply it? like how you can proc yas dash or ekko passive for a while. tho itd have to be alot smaller than those say 1 second after slow ends?

AwoofOct 10, 20161 votes

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It should be a tanky option with slowing power. But what could possibly be the build path and stats?

Buffed item 3030 ? I feel like this gets overlooked generally. I mean, Rylai's should go into the "more health, less ap" direction, but that item may be worth keeping in mind during this whole debate.

TeCoolMageOct 10, 20161 votes

40% slow with on attack effects is probably the most biased change I've ever seen. It should be lower than single target considering the fact champions like Kayle will be more broken than anyone with a single target non multi hit ability, and that mordekaiser is balanced around the current slow and making it an even tankier option is already benefitting him.

AirKingNeoOct 10, 20161 votes

Kayle's E is not an on attack effect. On attack effects are the consumed ones, Kayle's is an AoE because her E has an AoE attached.