Zeal items cost increased to 2900 from 2800 on PBE

D357R0Y3R·May 15, 2018·6 votes·2,589 views

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Alright crit is dead now

23 Comments

OleandervineMay 15, 20183 votes

This isn't surprising. An increase to this was announced like last week, if not before then when they announced all the ADC itemization changes.

D357R0Y3RMay 15, 20184 votes

it was 2800 gold last time it was on pbe

this time they increased it more ending up being a 1200 gold increase with LDR and IE

no reason to take that anymore over BORK(which is getting a buff) adcs

OleandervineMay 15, 20184 votes

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it was 2800 gold last time it was on pbe

this time they increased it more ending up being a 1200 gold increase with LDR and IE

no reason to take that anymore over BORK(which is getting a buff) adcs

Except some ADCs will still prefer crit over on-hit builds. That said, the Zeal items have been grossly undercosted for a very long time for the spike in damage that they offer.

ankoanko19May 15, 20182 votes

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it was 2800 gold last time it was on pbe

this time they increased it more ending up being a 1200 gold increase with LDR and IE

no reason to take that anymore over BORK(which is getting a buff) adcs

Does that mean botlane will stop having the majority of impact? cause tbh that is all that matters.

Pokemonred200May 15, 20181 votes

It'll still be most viable to camp them out of every lane, since apparently in testing camping botlane makes the enemy ADC completely useless, essentially turning the match into a 4v5, rather than making your ADC OP.

saltranMay 15, 20183 votes

No, this means that crit adcs will be trash while Ezreal KogMaw Varus Kaisa will be the strongest adcs and maybe also Jhin MissFortune with lethality. (and maybe Kalista can reach 46% winrate LUL)

There will be literally no reason to play crit over on hit adcs, I also expect Ashe to go on hit since she even loses E.Reaver + crit being too expensive. And Vayne probably will go back to Botrk first iteam and then Guinsoo.

D357R0Y3RMay 15, 20182 votes

Stormrazor got reverted to the crit version albeit weaker Jhin will 100% be busted with new armor pen

Killer of Night9May 15, 20181 votes

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No, this means that crit adcs will be trash while will be the strongest adcs and maybe also with lethality. (and maybe can reach 46% winrate LUL)

There will be literally no reason to play crit over on hit adcs, I also expect Ashe to go on hit since she even loses E.Reaver + crit being too expensive. And Vayne probably will go back to Botrk first iteam and then Guinsoo.

If Kalista will get more than 46% winrate you will see 100% a nerf because why not

ankoanko19May 15, 20181 votes

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If Kalista will get more than 46% winrate you will see 100% a nerf because why not

good. no more random inconsistent dmg.

D357R0Y3RMay 15, 20181 votes

the fuck are you talking about?

the reason kalista is nerfed everytime she's viable is because of pro

ankoanko19May 15, 20181 votes

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the fuck are you talking about?

the reason kalista is nerfed everytime she's viable is because of pro

I replied to the wrong person. I meant to reply to the guy saying ''There will be literally no reason to play crit over on hit adcs, I also expect Ashe to go on hit since she even loses E.Reaver + crit being too expensive. And Vayne probably will go back to Botrk first iteam and then Guinsoo.''

C9 Squeeky May 15, 20183 votes

Great. Can we take damage away from supports now? And tanks?

Killer of Night9May 15, 20182 votes

Phantom dancer according to surrender at 20 is 2800 g

saltranMay 15, 20181 votes

That's because adc's don't usually buy it.

D357R0Y3RMay 15, 20181 votes

it's a lie, it's 2900

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/247827285498003456/446053620644052992/unknown.png

Killer of Night9May 16, 20181 votes

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it's a lie, it's 2900

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/247827285498003456/446053620644052992/unknown.png

I said on surrender at 20 and it still say 2800 right now. http://www.surrenderat20.net/2018/05/515-pbe-update.html?m=1

Daddy AntsMay 15, 20182 votes

Ashe Caitlyn Draven Jinx Kalista Tristana Twitch Yasuo Xayah Tryndamere are dead come 8.11

Ezreal has his tear builds. Vayne Varus KogMaw Kaisa have item 3124 and/or item 3153 builds they can use.

Jhin MissFortune Lucian can use lethality.

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No, this means that crit adcs will be trash while will be the strongest adcs and maybe also with lethality. (and maybe can reach 46% winrate LUL)

There will be literally no reason to play crit over on hit adcs, I also expect Ashe to go on hit since she even loses E.Reaver + crit being too expensive. And Vayne probably will go back to Botrk first iteam and then Guinsoo.

I don't see how Ashe can possibly make an on hit build work.
She doesn't have any on hit effects in her kit to make use of Guinsoo's Phantom Passive.

Unless you mean a build like the old "Korean build" that existed in S6/7. item 3153 item 3085 item 3071

Vayne is most likely going to be using item 3153 item 3124 item 3046 as her 3 item core.

Varus and Kog will still build what they do on live right now, They aren't really crit users.

Kai'Sa I'm not sure about.

Ezreal will still use his tear build.

MF, Lucian and Jhin can use Lethality. Maybe Draven can also.

Daddy AntsMay 16, 20182 votes

The Riot games special.

Wild GeeseMay 16, 20181 votes

Why not just remove Crit from the game? I'm serious and I have ideas but I'm sure if I posted them it'd get downvoted.

Edit; lol, see what I mean.

Meep ManMay 16, 20181 votes

They also reduced the amount of crit that Zeal itself provides if I recall.

SasogwaMay 16, 20181 votes

IE true damage crit conversion down to 15% as well ! That's pretty cool

Warlord RhinarkMay 16, 20181 votes

Get excited for the drain-tanks amirite fellas?

item 3072 item 3153 item 3026 item 3156

SasogwaMay 16, 20181 votes

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Get excited for the drain-tanks amirite fellas?

item 3076 bois